Quintessential Media Player v5.0

[Protocol]

I just installed Quintessential Media Player v5.0.121.

I haven't had much of a look yet. I see that it has a new installer icon and a new program icon.

I can't find a ChangeLog for it. I can only see old ones.

Either way, I am happy to see it back.

Thanks Paul and Matt. :)

[Protocol]

I still can't get Watch Folders to work.

I have to manually add everything to the Media Library.

Does anyone know a trick to it? :ponder:

[jasperlotus]

;) I just can say that, Great!

[idefiXX]

WOW !

Trying it out right now. Guess I have a new standard player once again - thank you Paul and Matt. :)

[Lich]

I can't believe it.

[amer]

Finally!
I thought that the QMP project was dead but (luckily) no
Keep up the good work

[Tokelil]

I guess a congratulation is in order by now. :) :beer:

Now how about that changelog for build 121? :o

[Toe]

I wouldn't be surprised if it looks something like the changelog for b100... :ponder:

[BALTY]

Like everyone... glad to see progression here.
Question though. Is it 121 that's new or 5.0 and 121. Because My qmp always had said 5.0. Was the beta considered 5.0?

[Toe]

Builds 100 through 120 were 'test' releases of v5.0, 5.0 is the 'release' version, although .121 has been tagged onto the end of it to indicate build number.

[Sam]

I am unable to access the QMP Bug Tracker page. I get the following error when I try:

Site error: the file /home/quinnware/live.quinnware.com/forum/bugtracker.php requires the ionCube PHP Loader ioncube_loader_lin_5.2.so to be installed by the site administrator.

Anyway, I have noticed a few bugs with the new version. First, the playback progress indicator keeps disappearing. Also, the CPU usage is at times quite high for periods of time - 50% to 85% or more and then it will slowly drop off to normal.

[Tokelil]

I wouldn't be surprised if it looks something like the changelog for b100... :ponder:Hmm can't remember that one. Very long or very short I guess :)

[ace2701]

Hooray!! QMP5 works fine. All my music files and playlists transferred perfectly. And Shoutcast STILL WORKS!!! If anything does not work, I will let y'all know but so far so good:biggrin:.

[biggman15]

Yay! the websites back up! I practically hit the ceiling when I checked the site today!

[amer]

Yay! the websites back up! I practically hit the ceiling when I checked the site today!

Yes i was suprised too when i checked it today and it worked!

[BALTY]

welcome back my brothas:knocked-o

[acozz]

Crashes constantly for me :(

[Willow of Oz]

I had no trouble with any of the betas.
And then this one crashed after 30 seconds.
Been fine since then though.

[Psy]

V5.0 Full working perfect here, but 5.0 Lite has a small problem with the small skin mode: it shows up truncated.

[ltsnow]

Great day in the morning--QMP is alive and well. Now I am back to the player I have loved and off of Foobar2000 (although it is also a very good player). Thanks Paul.

No crashes for me.

[skoop]

Hello,

I am so glad that you are back. I am still alive and I still LOVE QMP! I see that you have made some nice updates to QMP. (especially the skin) I have not had a chance to fully explore this fantastic release yet. I will be able to give feedback when I fully test the new release. The main thing that I want corrected now is the picture that is on betanews.com. The picture is OLD and misleading. QMP is a giant step forward and the OLD picture on BetaNews does not represent the media player properly.

Thank you,
Christopher Hall
"SkooP"

[bmc152003]

wow, about damn time! thanks paul and matt.

i guess ill be around these forums more often guys.

[svwspider]

Yeah, QMP has been resurrected!!!

Even better, a new version (V5.0 121) with updated default skin (improved, yet
not radically).

Very nice surprise.....very nice indeed.....

Change log would be a welcome addition though....

:grin: :grin: :grin:

[Protocol]

I can't get QMP to play anything. Any clues?

Also. Does anyone know how to get Watch Folders to work?

[Protocol]

OK. I found that QMP is fussy with some MP3s.

It works with other.

Now, if I could only get Watch Folders working. :ermm:

[Todd The Kiwi]

wow, about damn time! thanks paul and matt.

i guess ill be around these forums more often guys.
welcome 'back' mate =]

i'm waiting for you guys to torture test v5 a bit before unleashing myself ha ha
plus i have a shortage of windows' here... :ponder:

[bmc152003]

id like to note that qmp 5 final came just in time...i lost my ipod so now i have absolutely no reason to use itunes anymore...

[Protocol]

Will someone please answer me?

Is Watch Folders working or not?

Or do I have to manually add everything all the time?

[Protocol]

I seem to remember that there was something that stopped Watch Folders from working, but I can't remember what it was. :ermm:

[bmc152003]

i have no idea if watched folders is working, i havent added anything new since i first added files.

[Protocol]

i have no idea if watched folders is working, i havent added anything new since i first added files.
I did some test, and it is definitely broken here. :disappoin

[Protocol]

I also have a problem when I go from Full Mode to Medium Mode when I have tracks playing. The Playlist has a white background where the tracks are, and they are almost illegible.

[Protocol]

Now how about that changelog for build 121? :o
I found this ChangeLog on another site strangely enough. :normal:

Latest changes:
- fixed bugs - #1833
- added plugin - centralized stream saving plugin
- updated core - Winamp IPC emulation fixes and updates
- added ML - 'Recent' module for tracking lastest plays, adds, and more
- added ML - column sorting indicator for long duration sorts
- fixed ML - saves stream metadata in ML more effectively

[idefiXX]

I found this ChangeLog on another site strangely enough. :normal:

Latest changes:
- fixed bugs - #1833
- added plugin - centralized stream saving plugin
- updated core - Winamp IPC emulation fixes and updates
- added ML - 'Recent' module for tracking lastest plays, adds, and more
- added ML - column sorting indicator for long duration sorts
- fixed ML - saves stream metadata in ML more effectively
Nah as far as I know thats the changelog for b120...

No big problems for me so far !

[acozz]

It crashed any time I go to the tagging plugins in the plugins menu...and every time I press the play button.

Just reinstalled with only the plugins I need and it works ok now.

[squeege2]

Wow great to see the update! Thanks ! Gotta give er a go.

....and some thought this player would die...for good!!!??? :silly:
Glad it hasn't.

[JohnnyGnote]

First when I received the update message today when I opened QCD/QMP I was relieved and happy, undoubtedly one of, if not my favorite players is back!!. When the upgrade was done I was a little taken aback on the new look and what I saw did remind me a little of Real/ITunes :o but when I was able to retrieve my skins from the old directory path I was relieved :grin:. I'm looking forward to exploring the new QMP and hope you Guys have a long and properous new resurrection !! Thanks for all your hard work and efforts to keep your project going QCD/QMP is undoubtedly one of the finest Media Plaers available and being the station manager of 2 internet radio stations it's at the top of the list of 3 players I recommend to use at our site!!

Best!!

[lillitnn92]

do we have to tick some setting now to get it to play from double clicking a folder when in folder view? that's the only problem i've found that i don't like.

[badbite26]

I downloaded full version, I opened full version, full version crashed. Had to do a hard restart. Is v5.0 Vista compatible? :confused:

[Tokelil]

I downloaded full version, I opened full version, full version crashed. Had to do a hard restart. Is v5.0 Vista compatible? :confused:Yes works fine on Vista. Could you provide some more details maybe? Are you running any 3rd party plug-ins? Try launching as administrator and go to preferences -> Settings -> Systrem Integration -> Version & Settings -> and check Save settings for each user account. Then restart the player normally...

[jawpr]

Hi everyone. Man! My favorite player is alive and well. I just uninstalled Foobar, XMPlayer,and a couple more that I had been trying out. I was afraid QMP was through but I'm so glad I was wrong. So far I haven't found anything wrong with the new version. I haven't added anything in ages so I can't tell if watch folders is working or not here but Search is working for me. Someone said it wasn't working for them. Also, changing from large mode to medium or small does not crash for me. Matter of fact, nothing so far has caused it to crash. It has played everything I have tried so far. Someone mentioned the skin folder was not working but it works fine here.

Edit - Sorry, my mistake - The skins do not load.

[Toe]

Whoa, I can double-click the titlebar and have it maximize/restore now! I asked for that years ago (http://www.quinnware.com/forum/showthread.php?t=3589)! :D

Hmm can't remember that one. Very long or very short I guess :)
It was the first one for QMP, after the year of silence. It basically said "Too many changes to list, starting build count over at 100."

[Todd The Kiwi]

It crashed any time I go to the tagging plugins in the plugins menu...and every time I press the play button.

Just reinstalled with only the plugins I need and it works ok now.interesting, b120 used to do that here.

QUESTION -- Does anyone know if there is a way I can delete some of the address files in IE drop-down bar at the top of the page or will I have to leave them there until IE adds other ones and deletes these?
pardon? do you mean your 'browsing history' [there's a hint] ;)

[Rex_Mundi_Incarnit]

Whoa, I can double-click the titlebar and have it maximize/restore now! I asked for that years ago (http://www.quinnware.com/forum/showthread.php?t=3589)! :D


That's not new mate. It existed in b120 as well, possibly before that too. :cyclops: I had it incorporated in my Vista skin.

[BALTY]

Thanks for all your hard work and efforts to keep your project going QCD/QMP is undoubtedly one of the finest Media Plaers available and being the station manager of 2 internet radio stations it's at the top of the list of 3 players I recommend to use at our site!!

Best!!
I have no way of knowing if you tell the truth about station Mgr. (I assume you are).
COOL! Keep it going! http://quinnware.com/forum/images/emots/post/thumbup.gif

[Todd The Kiwi]

~being the station manager of 2 internet radio stations it's at the top of the list of 3 players I recommend to use at our site!!no links given... ? :carrot:

[BALTY]

Well, at least he's not spam'n . LOL

[Todd The Kiwi]

quoting some Aesop would be confrontational :p

[Josella]

I really loved the old player. Hate the new one. It's just an iTunes clone, except I may as well go back to iTunes because I really can't be bothered figuring QMP out.

:bored:

[Toe]

FFS, this really looks like a clone of iTunes to you?

http://www.toejob.org/forumpics/q121.png

If you don't like the media library, then turn it off or download the version without it (http://www.quinnware.com/bin/qmp_5.0.121_lite.exe). Is it that hard?

You can use the old skin too, if you want. At that point you've basically got QCD 4.51 with the addition of ReplayGain support, an updated tag editor, etc.

[svwspider]

I really loved the old player. Hate the new one. It's just an iTunes clone, except I may as well go back to iTunes because I really can't be bothered figuring QMP out.

:bored:

That's truly absurd.... Figure it out? QMP is one of the easiest, most logically laid out full featured players around.

iTunes clone......heresy I say, heresy.....

[Rex_Mundi_Incarnit]

LOL such comments are not even worth arguing about :devil:

[Todd The Kiwi]

ha ha ha pwned

[intermario_gr]

Same here, it was an unbelievably pleasant surprise to learn that a final version of QMP was released and that the QMP development was no longer on hold. It's good to see that Paul and Matt still keep it going. I haven't had a pretty good chance to test it out thoroughly but it looks amazing. That's um... because I just could not help but post here immediately after installing! :) I will post feedback soon.

Thanks!

P.S. I cannot believe there's a person who thinks that the new QMP looks like iTunes! QMP is far better than this piece of $#@! Does not look like it, does not work like it. It's the most full-featured and straightforward player I've found so far.

[Todd The Kiwi]

i'm surprised [?!] we didn't all get some kind of quinnmail alert.
i unticked "check for newer version" years ago...

[badbite26]

Yes works fine on Vista. Could you provide some more details maybe? Are you running any 3rd party plug-ins? Try launching as administrator and go to preferences -> Settings -> Systrem Integration -> Version & Settings -> and check Save settings for each user account. Then restart the player normally...

Not much more to tell. As I said, downloaded, opened, and crash! I am running as administrator. I tried your tip and seems to be more stable.
Thanks.

and, just after I hit post, it crashed. Hmm, seems pretty unstable. Anyone else having crashes?

[Toe]

None for me so far...

[Toe]

I see the bug where Ogg tracks at the beginning of the play queue are skipped is still with us... :depressed

[Rex_Mundi_Incarnit]

Fudge. All i can say is fudge.

[Tokelil]

Not much more to tell. As I said, downloaded, opened, and crash! I am running as administrator. I tried your tip and seems to be more stable.
Thanks.

and, just after I hit post, it crashed. Hmm, seems pretty unstable. Anyone else having crashes?I haven't had a single crash with b121. So it crashes it the middle of songs? Any chance you have a debugger install, so you can see which DLL is craching? :)

[Tropics]

not a single problem here either. but then i also never had problems with b120.

[Tokelil]

not a single problem here either. but then i also never had problems with b120.Same here. Only the ML_WMDMDevice.dll has given me some problems, so I normally delete that. (Though it is installed atm.)

[WhiteBrother]

Ура! Сайт заработал! Да ещё с новым плеером в придачу!

[badbite26]

I haven't had a single crash with b121. So it crashes it the middle of songs? Any chance you have a debugger install, so you can see which DLL is craching? :)

While I was typing the my post, the station (xfm London was buffering) was buffering. I stopped and restarted the player, then it crashed. Every crash has been at opening of the player.

I'm uninstalling, and downloading again.

[Toe]

Finally something!
Cheers! The site is working! Yes even with a new player in the bargain!
:) .

[Merri]

On download page the non Media Library installer does not work, the lite executable is not found on the server.

[Protocol]

On download page the non Media Library installer does not work, the lite executable is not found on the server.
Try this link (http://www.quinnware.com/bin/qmp_5.0.121_lite.exe) for the Lite version.

By the way. You could also download the full version, and deselect the Media Library when you install it. No difference.

[Rex_Mundi_Incarnit]

By the way. You could also download the full version, and deselect the Media Library when you install it. No difference.

But the default skin will still show a media library where there is none???

[Tokelil]

While I was typing the my post, the station (xfm London was buffering) was buffering. I stopped and restarted the player, then it crashed. Every crash has been at opening of the player.

I'm uninstalling, and downloading again.So you a streaming most of the time? I very rarely stream, so that might be the difference between our usage.

[Merri]

Try this link (http://www.quinnware.com/bin/qmp_5.0.121_lite.exe) for the Lite version.

By the way. You could also download the full version, and deselect the Media Library when you install it. No difference.

Sure, that is what I did do, but still it'd be nice if the link worked in the right place :)

[gadgeX]

I upgraded on Friday from 4.51 to ver 5.0 .
version 5.0 installs in it's own dir C:\Program Files\Quintessential Media Player and 4.51 remains in it's own C:\Program Files\Quintessential Player . Does this mean I have to reinstall all my plugins & skins or simply point the new vers 5.0 to my old dirs .. I did notice I couldn't install MMD3 winshade skin on Friday on the new version .


thanks ... gadgeX

[Tokelil]

If you install into the old directory it should work. Why didn't the MMD3 skin not work? Does the skin come with an installer or just a .qsk or .qsf file?

[Toe]

Are you using the built-in skin downloader? That's a known problem (http://www.quinnware.com/forum/showthread.php?t=7901) at the moment.

[Roj]

Complete and utter shock. Gotta check it out. How is ASIO support these days and what about WASAPI?

[Toe]

Equinoxe's ASIO plugin (http://www.quinnware.com/list_plugins.php?plugin=170) works reasonably well.

[gadgeX]

Yeah I was using the skin installer :-) and it was a .qsf file ..
I'll re install 5.0 into my old dir and see how things go ....

cheers .. gadgeX

[amer]

I noticed that on the playlist (skin on medium mode) there are 2 rectangles that have a slightly different color from the playlist
Here is a screenshot (you can see them better if you zoom-in)

http://www.imagesforme.com/out.php/i370624_color.PNG

Also when you want the External Visualisations (Visual Effects) with Wave Fumes there are some black shaped objects on the backround?

EDIT: the problem with visual effects appears only when i switch from full mode (with visual) to medium mode

[Willow of Oz]

I haven't seen that, Amer, but I have seen that resizing the playlist cuts the qmp logo up a bit and leaves detritus around the place.

[Roj]

Equinoxe's ASIO plugin (http://www.quinnware.com/list_plugins.php?plugin=170) works reasonably well.

Thanks.

Doesn't look like you can alter the playlist font (at least change the size). That's a HUGE showstopper for me.

[Toe]

Try Preferences -> Skins -> Fonts -> Playlist Track.

QMP's skinning engine does have a weakness here, though. As you increase the font size, QMP doesn't increase the line-height of each entry, so the bottom of the text ends up getting clipped off. But it's not such a problem if the skin uses a large line-height to begin with.

Here's what Rex's QMP Vista skin (http://www.quinnware.com/skins.php?skin=378) looks like with the playlist font set to Verdana 12pt regular:

http://www.toejob.org/forumpics/qmpvista.png

[Rex_Mundi_Incarnit]

Here is the Vista skin with double click titlebar control

[reddog]

Congrats on the site being back and ver 5 out, it's been a long time.

Anyway testing ver 5, very 1st problem 5.0 Lite has a small problem with the small skin mode: it shows up truncated. As reported by others.

[Todd The Kiwi]

I haven't seen that, Amer, but I have seen that resizing the playlist cuts the qmp logo up a bit and leaves detritus around the place.really? i thought that was just me.
using b120 and shex, i figured it was just my doctored skin.

[Willow of Oz]

That's a HUGE showstopper for me.
As opposed to a minor showstopper? :laugh:

[Roj]

As opposed to a minor showstopper? :laugh:
Yah. :) Minor showstoppers are no asio support (wasapi is broken so no loss if it's missing). Major showstoppers prevent me from actually using the playlist.

[Roj]

Not ott bad. I've got Foobat set to Lucida 14pt.

Try Preferences -> Skins -> Fonts -> Playlist Track.

QMP's skinning engine does have a weakness here, though. As you increase the font size, QMP doesn't increase the line-height of each entry, so the bottom of the text ends up getting clipped off. But it's not such a problem if the skin uses a large line-height to begin with.

Here's what Rex's QMP Vista skin (http://www.quinnware.com/skins.php?skin=378) looks like with the playlist font set to Verdana 12pt regular:

http://www.toejob.org/forumpics/qmpvista.png

[Rex_Mundi_Incarnit]

I just had a run down of all the latest builds and the released version of qmp. I came to my conclusion that b119 is probably the best. The default skin looks better without the ugly tabs and skinning bugs.

Eg.

1. Fixed play list in mini mode,

2. readable buttons in stick mode,

3. working button states in the media library

4. rip and encode embedded in the main skin mode.

5. No pointless album art area in main skin.

I cant remember what serious bugs it had but for me it's the best choice.

[Roj]

Me, I stick with Foobar.

Sorry...

I just had a run down of all the latest builds and the released version of qmp. I came to my conclusion that b119 is probably the best. The default skin looks better without the ugly tabs and skinning bugs.

Eg.

1. Fixed play list in mini mode,

2. readable buttons in stick mode,

3. working button states in the media library

4. rip and encode embedded in the main skin mode.

5. No pointless album art area in main skin.

I cant remember what serious bugs it had but for me it's the best choice.

[QE_Fan]

Hello,
Just to tell you that I'm very happy with QMP 5.0. Actually, it's an excellent tool!
Thanks so much, greetings!
QE Fan

[Rex_Mundi_Incarnit]

Me, I stick with Foobar.

Sorry...

Dont be sorry because im a Fooby user too! :bandit:

I was just ranting about the way qmp development has hit the slippery ice and seems to be sliding into the water. If it's not already drowning...

[Willow of Oz]

Now, one interesting thing that I don't think anyone has remarked on, and that may have held up the final release, is something that Paul remarked on some time ago.
The betas had gracenote support - for the final it was going to be pulled.
But it hasn't been.
Hmmmm... ?

[jawpr]

Will somebody please post the new version here. I can not get it to download for me. I deleted mine and tried the lite version and I don't like it so I need someone to post the full version here - Please - and thanks!


EDIT - Nevermind - I forgot I had saved a copy of the installer. Thanks anyway.

[Toe]

Now, one interesting thing that I don't think anyone has remarked on, and that may have held up the final release, is something that Paul remarked on some time ago.
The betas had gracenote support - for the final it was going to be pulled.
But it hasn't been.
Hmmmm... ?
Paul confirmed a year ago when b120 was released that MusicID would be staying.

http://www.quinnware.com/forum/showthread.php?p=97404#post97404

[Roj]

Dont be sorry because im a Fooby user too! :bandit:

I was just ranting about the way qmp development has hit the slippery ice and seems to be sliding into the water. If it's not already drowning...
Depressing, really. :(

[Willow of Oz]

Paul confirmed a year ago when b120 was released that MusicID would be staying.

http://www.quinnware.com/forum/showthread.php?p=97404#post97404
Ta, I missed that one.

[ace2701]

Here is the Vista skin with double click titlebar control

Rex.. very nice skin. Could you please tell me where the volume control is? :ermm:

[Toe]

It's on my amp, of course. :)

[Rex_Mundi_Incarnit]

Rex.. very nice skin. Could you please tell me where the volume control is? :ermm:

Between the 'play next' button and the progress bar. :laugh: Ta!

[rorythedog]

Can v5 handle FLAC?

[Toe]

Assuming you have the FLAC plugin (http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=129232) installed, yes.

[rorythedog]

Nice one Toe. Thanks for that. Now let's see how it sounds.

[jawpr]

The new build has been working good until yesterday. Today it has started using 15-30-40-50% cpu and sometimes it runs up to 100% fo a short time. I have never had that problem with any of the other builds as far as I can remember. I unchecked several things that I normally use but that didn't help. I also removed that library .dll that has caused a problem before and still no help. I also tried using a different Input and also a different playback plug-in. No change. Any help would be appreciated!!!

Hard to believe -- I cut the player off for a few minutes and now it is playing with a normal cpu so I have no idea what was wrong earlier.

[Toe]

Do you have MusicID enabled? IIRC that can use up a good chunk of CPU time while it's running. You might check Preferences -> Settings -> Gracenote -> MusicID File and see if the MusicID Status is idle or not.

[Hiqutipie]

Great Work guys...Have been using Qmp for a long time and never expected the update...Its " Alive "...& working better then ever...Love the library management & player...

Thanks again...

Hiqutipie;)

[lillitnn92]

only thing that is truly annoying the hell out of me. not being able to double click on a folder to play it. in folder view of course, which is the way i use it.

[B.E.L.B.H.D.]

only thing that is truly annoying the hell out of me. not being able to double click on a folder to play it. in folder view of course, which is the way i use it.

I noticed this too.

[Toe]

Yeah, that was broken in b120, and not fixed in 121... :disappoin

[lillitnn92]

ah, i never made it to b120. was still on 119.

[janipiipponen]

Cool. Good to see QMP up and running again. I almost gave hope and started using Songplayer.

I just love that album cover art next to 'now playing info'. Great job.

[BALTY]

Cool Jan.. hmmm songplayer.

Hey does anyone know how to turn off good ol' 4.51 from checking for updates all the time? The 5.0 update screen keeps bothering me each time I launch.

[Toe]

Preferences -> Settings -> System Integration -> Version & Settings -> uncheck Auto-check for updates? At least, that's what it is in 5.0, not sure if it's the same in 4.51.

[MrT]

Thanks very much for the latest version. I got a new laptop and thought I'd check and see what was happening with Quintessential. Delighted to find a new version of the player - you guys are brilliant. Now installed and working well. I'm looking forward to using my favourite player again.

And thanks to the forum as well. You've helped me fix my codecs for an old video I need, without pain :)