Development Build 120

[Paul]

Hey, sorry about that slight pause since Build 119.

Last beta release. This build 120 has new plug-ins for stream saving and for recent items in the media library. Code hardening within, and plug-in interface finalizing. Not a whole lot of noticeable stuff otherwise. New skin won't be out until official release.

The PDK download has been updated with the newest headers and all previous ML plug-ins will probably NOT WORK with 120. Not that there were many out there yet. The PDK Reference Guide has not been updated yet to match all the new items in 120 but will be for the release.

Thanks,
-Paul

[B.E.L.B.H.D.]

woohoo.

[atomicross]

Super!

[Rex_Mundi_Incarnit]

Yay! Just what I need to get my mind off all those sensitive discussions going on! :biggrin:

[B.E.L.B.H.D.]

Does anyone have a problem with the Prefs button for the Radio tab of the media library?

When I first click the radio tab, the Prefs button is there, but "efs" can be seen next to the button. But when I change window somehow, maximize the ML, minimize QMP, etc. the button fixes itself.

[Rex_Mundi_Incarnit]

No...but the Search /MusicID buttons no longer have a mouse hover state...?

EDIT: I mean yes...sort of. The text "view prefs" from the audio tab remains partially visible when clicking on the radio tab because the button changes to "prefs"

[biggman15]

wow... New Version... Any chance of tabbed playlists?

[Todd The Kiwi]

"slight pause" :silly:

i'll grapple with the new build later

thanks Paul.

[B.E.L.B.H.D.]

No...but the Search /MusicID buttons no longer have a mouse hover state...?

EDIT: I mean yes...sort of. The text "view prefs" from the audio tab remains partially visible when clicking on the radio tab because the button changes to "prefs"

OK, you're right. I mentioned that there were two view prefs and one prefs a few builds ago, but nothing was ever changed.

[Tokelil]

"updated core - Winamp IPC emulation fixes and updates"
Does this incl. the media library IPCs? (Set/Get rating f.x.)

There weren't so many comments about all the bugs in the bug tracker. If it isn't the plan to fix them all, maybe they should just be closed or the tracker cleared? (And start over with reporting for this build)

Looking forward to see the new skin! :)

[Rex_Mundi_Incarnit]

I wonder what is wrong with the current beta skin. I mean really wrong. Like it's got all the functionality bar some buttons for pruning and man advance. As for looks, YMMV.

[Rex_Mundi_Incarnit]

Line in recorder still needs patching for Windows Vista.

[duckie]

Thanks, works well, except it seems to have killed the non-core input plugins.

[Tokelil]

Since there is no b120 entry in the bug tracker yet, I'll post here.

The format template editor doesn't display templates correctly any more.
F.x. "artistTrk / album / title" is displayed as "artistTrk _ album _ title" instead. (Both in the Current Templates list and the preview area)

[Toe]

So has it been officially determined if MusicID will be sticking around post-beta?

[lynott]

120 overwrites all 119 ini files. All settings must be re-entered. Qmp, skin and plug settings. I'm on Vista, and I checked "Save seperate user settings".

Edit/ ML settings remained though /edit

[jkrzok]

Thanks, works well, except it seems to have killed the non-core input plugins.

I haven't seen this, at least with the FLAC and BASS plugins. I had issues with BASS reading FLAC tags but that I attribute to the plugin, not Q.

I have "Auto-show Save Tool when playing streams' enabled but don't see it come up when I launch a stream. Is there any other way to launch the tool? It's no longer available through the mp3 plugin menu.

[duckie]

I haven't seen this, at least with the FLAC and BASS plugins. I had issues with BASS reading FLAC tags but that I attribute to the plugin, not Q.

I have "Auto-show Save Tool when playing streams' enabled but don't see it come up when I launch a stream. Is there any other way to launch the tool? It's no longer available through the mp3 plugin menu.

Odd, because I have problems with the BASS and FLAC plugins. Will have to investigate further.

[zisworg]

Great news!! :calm:
Thank you Paul.

A new Year beginnnn : YES!

[B.E.L.B.H.D.]

I wonder what is wrong with the current beta skin. I mean really wrong. Like it's got all the functionality bar some buttons for pruning and man advance. As for looks, YMMV.

I've also said this before, but if the new skin is much different, aren't we looking at a bunch of new skin bugs in the final release?

[Paul]

Answers to questions en masse:

There will always be bugs. QMP 5.0 is coming out regardless because nothing of this scale will be bug free. Continued bug fixed after the release will be the order of the day.

I didn't go over the bug tracker, but the bugs there are important for me to review. I will being doing so.

MusicID is staying!

[Tokelil]

Answers to questions en masse:

There will always be bugs. QMP 5.0 is coming out regardless because nothing of this scale will be bug free. Continued bug fixed after the release will be the order of the day.

I didn't go over the bug tracker, but the bugs there are important for me to review. I will being doing so.Thanks for making it clear!

MusicID is staying!Yeah! MusicID is an awesome feature IMO.

[lynott]

So basically we'll get 120 in a new wrapping. Works for me :) No issues as far as I can tell in this build (for me anyways)

Btw, had som issues with mp3 encoding in 119. Seems to be fixed in this build.
Thanks for making it clear!

Yeah! MusicID is an awesome feature IMO.
Jep, and if you like to stay in control it's easy enough to remove.

[Protocol]

120 overwrites all 119 ini files. All settings must be re-entered. Qmp, skin and plug settings. I'm on Vista, and I checked "Save seperate user settings".

Edit/ ML settings remained though /edit
Hmmm! I didn't notice that. :cross-eye

Mine seem to be all retained.

[Protocol]

Build 120 made it onto BetaNews (http://fileforum.betanews.com/detail/Quintessential_Media_Player/944927017/1).

It currenty has a rating of 4.2 out of 5.

[B.E.L.B.H.D.]

Build 120 made it onto BetaNews (http://fileforum.betanews.com/detail/Quintessential_Media_Player/944927017/1).

It currenty has a rating of 4.2 out of 5.


That's good.

When QCD was still a current product it was often showed off in PC World.

[Tropics]

thanks very much! actually i didn't expect it in january ....

one note: i had a look at the new pdk, and it seems the hotkey sdk (http://www.tropictech.de/modules/PDdownloads/singlefile.php?cid=3&lid=14) is not part of it. is it not supposed to? or maybe you just forgot?

[Todd The Kiwi]

not a very good first run for me i'm afraid.

couldn't open the plugin browser ctrl+b, right click menu or via prefs.
removed all the plugins from the plugin folder and readded them now everything is fine.

i seem to recall this being an issue not so long ago with a different build...
i'll try to find it.

[Todd The Kiwi]

ok i found it BUG 1823 (http://www.quinnware.com/forum/bugtracker.php?do=viewbug&bugtracker_bugid=1823)
[which is possibly related to 1769?]

i should mention that the player CLOSES INSTANTLY when trying to invoke the plugin browser.not a very good first run for me i'm afraid.

couldn't open the plugin browser ctrl+b, right click menu or via prefs.
removed all the plugins from the plugin folder and readded them now everything is fine.

i seem to recall this being an issue not so long ago with a different build...
i'll try to find it.

[ace2701]

Well,I thought I'd try the new beta, and still no radio list for my OS (w98SE :disappoin). BUT, QMP plays great when I go directly to the Shoutcast site, so I guess I'll play around with b120 for a while. Sooner or later I WILL update to W2K or XP, but until then, QMP will still be my player of choice. Keep up the good work Paul.

[Rex_Mundi_Incarnit]

not a very good first run for me i'm afraid.

couldn't open the plugin browser ctrl+b, right click menu or via prefs.
removed all the plugins from the plugin folder and readded them now everything is fine.

i seem to recall this being an issue not so long ago with a different build...
i'll try to find it.

I don't want to be a prick, but it works here ha ha :laugh: :beer:

So Paul, i was already wondering why the bug tracker wasn't updated. Thanks for letting us know that you will look at each one. Submitting the same bugs all over again is a bit pointless.

[squeege2]

Haven't had much chance to "play" yet, but....... thank you Paul.:beer:

[lynott]

120 overwrites all 119 ini files. All settings must be re-entered. Qmp, skin and plug settings. I'm on Vista, and I checked "Save seperate user settings".

Edit/ ML settings remained though /edit
Hmmm! I didn't notice that. :cross-eye

Mine seem to be all retained.

I've had this with previous builds as well. Don't know why, but I guess it has to do with the "Set for all/single user" settings on Vista. Strange though that all settings (well weird, a few was retained) was reset as to a clean install, but ML was intact. Don't ask me. I have no idea :)

[Todd The Kiwi]

i don't need to be a magician to save streams now, sweet! :biggrin:

[lillitnn92]

i don't need to be a magician to save streams now, sweet! :biggrin:


well i was. i'd like it to be a little more easier to start saving streams. "for me". i have to go into preferences>encoders and click enable every time. before i just went to the plug in drop down on the skin's UI went to the mp3 plug-in and clicked enable.the stream saving tool does not open when i start streams either. it use to and would already be recording if it was the last time i used it. just seems a bit more task intensive now. unless i'm missing a button on the skin itself (which would rock!)

also, Todd The Pomegranate :) can you find out on your end if it deletes songs that are fragmented? mine wasn't deleting incomplete songs.

also, can anybody tell me what setting(s) you have to have for you to be able to turn down the volume on QMP and still have audio on WMP when playing a video? i couldn't get it working correctly today. if QMP was down, WMP was down. i did a clean install so i don't know if i got all my settings correct.

[Todd The Kiwi]

ha ha :p

give me one of your URLs you used, i'll try it with the same one.

[lillitnn92]

ha ha :p

give me one of your URLs you used, i'll try it with the same one.

anything from Digitally Imported (http://www.di.fm/) should do, since that is where i take most of my stuff from. 96k streams

[WHAT?]

So far the only thing with ML is the initial query (http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a249/WhatTheH/QMP120ML.jpg) after the install. It lock ups. Not sure why yet:confused: . Perhaps something SKWOOOWIE with my files. huhuhuhuh. We'll see I'm continuing to attempt to build this. SO far I can't even restart it. So I guess a reboot, and a redo!:ditsy:

[Todd The Kiwi]

anything from Digitally Imported (http://www.di.fm/) should do, since that is where i,take most of my stuff from. 96k streamsfound some real nice gangsta rap here, thanks mate!

[Rex_Mundi_Incarnit]

anything from Digitally Imported (http://www.di.fm/) should do, since that is where i take most of my stuff from. 96k streams

Yeah it has one of my favourite trance stations. Good on ya :cool:

[Toe]

I see the bug where clicking load new plugins unchecks all your playback plugins is still there in b120. I do hope that one gets fixed for 5.0...

[Todd The Kiwi]

oh cool, i hit shft+ins and the player closes...

[Tokelil]

oh cool, i hit shft+ins and the player closes...Can't confirm. Works here.

[WHAT?]

Removed by poster because he can NOT duplicate again. FLUKE I guess!

[B.E.L.B.H.D.]

None of the many Todd (TM) problems are happening here:silly:

[Todd The Kiwi]

None of the many Todd (TM) problems are happening hereyeah these Todd only ones are a bit much :normal:

actually while we're on this one:

if i drag and drop a folder onto the player the files don't load.
when i finally get the files into the player the tags/filenames look rooted :cry:

[Todd The Kiwi]

what - what happens if you don't create playlists for encoded tracks?
where are the original files?

[Protocol]

None of the many Todd (TM) problems are happening here:silly:
Maybe Paul can set up a "Todd" Bug Tracker. :silly:

[Todd The Kiwi]

oi! i can hear you guys :silly:

[WHAT?]

what - what happens if you don't create playlists for encoded tracks?
where are the original files?
I'll try it. It appears to only be at my office's PC. At home it's working the way it should.:normal:
I don't know the difference yet. But I'll keep trying different combos at home and tomorrow at work.

Yeah it was real odds that I had it (the wav file) to send to the Recycle Bin after completion, and I'm staring at the file in it's folder. A new (mp3) one never generated, and the original just disappeared. So I did a search for it. I found it in the "Other" folder (output folder). So I tried a few more times, and the same thing kept happening.

[Todd The Kiwi]

β120 has been added to the bug tracker.

[Todd The Kiwi]

ok for-get that shizzle.

i'm back with 116 and all is as it should be.

hey get this though, i overinstalled and the mp3 stream saving stuff has remained ha ha!
[it's a bit weird though...]

[Protocol]

ok for-get that shizzle.

i'm back with 116 and all is as it should be.


Maybe you need a fresh install of your OS.

You will enjoy that. :rolleyes:

[Rex_Mundi_Incarnit]

...b120 didn't fix that many bugs. It's stable-ish but the pipes are still clogged.

[Toe]

oh cool, i hit shft+ins and the player closes...
if i drag and drop a folder onto the player the files don't load.
when i finally get the files into the player the tags/filenames look rooted :cry:
All certified WFM here...

[Rex_Mundi_Incarnit]

WFM Works For Me (chat)
WFM Wait for Me (chat)
WFM Waveform Monitor
WFM Western Federation of Miners (radical labor union in 1890s-1900s)
WFM What Freakin' Manual? (response to RTFM)
WFM White Frequency Modulation (ANSI)
WFM Whole Foods Market
WFM Wide Frequency Modulated
WfM Wired For Management (Intel)
WFM Women's FIDE Master
WFM Word-Faith Movement
WFM Workflow Management
WFM Workflow Manager
WFM Workforce Management
WFM World Federalist Movement

Hmmm lets see...I'll pick #1 :bandit:

[Protocol]

Hmmm lets see...I'll pick #1 :bandit:
How about Working For Me? :apple:

[Todd The Kiwi]

yeah i had to look that up, toe is just too tech for us.

[Protocol]

yeah i had to look that up, toe is just too tech for us.
Or maybe slow at typing... :ponder: :rolleyes:

[Protocol]

I have noticed with this build that when I add a track to an empty Play Queue from the Media Library or folder, it doesn't automatically play. With b119 it would automatically play. I cannot find how to change this.

I have System Integration > Loading & Explorer > "Automatically play first track added to empty Play Queue" ticked.


Anyone know? :ermm:

EDIT: OK. I found the problem. I cannot get the Bass plug-in to work. Seems like b120 has broken it.

[Toe]

Apparently the FLAC plugin has the same problem. Sounds like shaohao's got some recompiling to do...

[Protocol]

Apparently the FLAC plugin has the same problem. Sounds like shaohao's got some recompiling to do...
Yeah, well this is Quinnware Bass Audio Engine plugin v1.0. Not sure what has happened, but I cannot get it to work.

[Protocol]

Bug Report lodged.

ID: 1873

[Tokelil]

Yeah, well this is Quinnware Bass Audio Engine plugin v1.0. Not sure what has happened, but I cannot get it to work.The PDK has changed, so probably the interfaces used for the input plug-ins (those that work together with the "new" source plug-in) has changed. (Though I haven't checked) They will need a recompile with the new PDK.

[Protocol]

The PDK has changed, so probably the interfaces used for the input plug-ins (those that work together with the "new" source plug-in) has changed. (Though I haven't checked) They will need a recompile with the new PDK.
I think you are right. Paul must have missed this.

[jawpr]

Yeah, well this is Quinnware Bass Audio Engine plugin v1.0. Not sure what has happened, but I cannot get it to work.


I could not get my bass plugin or my asio plugin to work either. So I went to where acozz has his plugins stored and downloaded the bass plugin 2.0.0.alpha1 and now both the bass and the asio are working just fine. I had bass dll. 2.3.0.2 and the one I downloaded has bass 2.3.0.1.
Hope this helps.

[ltsnow]

Sounds great Paul. Thanks for the update.

[lynott]

Is "ML_Recent.dll" dependent on any other dll's in the "ML plugins" folder?
I removed the following dll's: wmdmdevice, wizzard, watchfolders, videofolders, videoDB, streamDB, Icecast and Shoutcast, wich were all unneeded for me. Now.. I still se the Recent plug present in the left collumn, but there are no listing for any of the sub categorys..
It simply says: Filtering Media Library.. without anything happening.

[Rex_Mundi_Incarnit]

I guess you removed something you shouldn't have :rolleyes:

[lynott]

Hehe, jeh, something ;)

[lillitnn92]

well i went back to 119. just to many hiccups. tonight i started 120 to add two new Rush cd's i got to the Library and then nothing would que and play upon double click. closed, tried again, same. wouldn't work no matter what, i had to right click and add to play. and the streams still weren't deleting if fragmented. so i went back to fresh clean install of 119.

[Kittycalbard]

120's library and recently-played areas are both coming up as having no content; the radio works, but "favorites" doesn't. I've made sure it knows where my files are, and manually loaded songs/playlists repeatedly. (It is showing my m3u8/m3u files properly in the Load Playlist menu.)

Re-sizing and moving library & playlist windows are spiking the CPU quite a bit, far more than I remember in previous builds. Library has up to 90 for changing size in one direction, moving it uses 45. The playlist hits it at 25-40 for moving, and 40-63 for resizing.

As of this morning, it's also getting stuck at the beginning of random songs or mid-stream, and won't continue playing until I either hit stop/pause & then "play" again or click on the progress bar. With at least one stream (from a m3u8 file, not the radio) it also will sometimes halt for no reason, then freeze up entirely. B119 had the same issue for me, and I thought I'd gotten away from it, but evidently not.

[Toe]

Anyone else getting occasional 'sorting' messages popping up at track change?

[Rex_Mundi_Incarnit]

Anyone else getting occasional 'sorting' messages popping up at track change?

Not sure, but pretty redundant message nonetheless.

EDIT: Ok confirmed. And it wont go away...

[Toe]

I just noticed QMP wasn't reading tags, and I couldn't open the tag editor. QMP process didn't terminate when I closed the player, had to be killed from task manager.

Paul, are you sure this is going to be the last dev build? :gasmask:

[B2R]

Hello, thanks with Paul and all the contributors for this excellent work…
just a small change on the ml:
.Audio: View Prefs
.Video: View Prefs
.Radio: Prefs

[Toe]

Oh yeah, forgot to mention that double-clicking an album on the left side of the ML to play it doesn't work for me either. :cry:

[jawpr]

Oh yeah, forgot to mention that double-clicking an album on the left side of the ML to play it doesn't work for me either. :cry:


Toe - I have mine set on the split library and I don't have my songs in albums so I can't check that. I do have playlists and I can click a playlist on the left side and it opens in the middle section and if I click on one of the songs, it will play all of them. As far as the messages you are getting, I am not getting any of those. Also, I can click on edit and it shows my tags. The only thing that I know that might be causing the problem since I am not having any is I have the file ID closed. Why don't you try unchecking the file ID and see if that solves your problem. Just a suggestion!

[Toe]

Clicking playlists or individual tracks works fine, it's anything in the (upper) left column that's broken. This isn't something where you 'have your songs in albums' - this is something built into the player no matter what songs you have. And it's not just albums, it's genres, years, composers, or any of the other browsing options in that column. Double-clicking on any of those to play them doesn't work, even though the appropriate option for it is set in prefs.

And as I said, the little box telling me it's sorting the tracks is intermittent, it's not doing it at the moment. That doesn't mean it's not a bug, though, as Rex just said he had it happen to him. And tags worked again after restarting the player, but again that doesn't mean it's not bugged, it probably means that one of the plugins failed.

[B.E.L.B.H.D.]

Oh yeah, forgot to mention that double-clicking an album on the left side of the ML to play it doesn't work for me either. :cry:

I don't seem to be having problems double clicking albums but:
It seems like double clicking an artist, genre, etc. will not play all files under that selection if there are still more levels besides the files themselves below. But once the levels below are visible double clicking the higher selection will work, unlike before.

[Toe]

Doesn't work at any level on my end.

[jawpr]

Clicking playlists or individual tracks works fine, it's anything in the (upper) left column that's broken. This isn't something where you 'have your songs in albums' - this is something built into the player no matter what songs you have. And it's not just albums, it's genres, years, composers, or any of the other browsing options in that column. Double-clicking on any of those to play them doesn't work, even though the appropriate option for it is set in prefs.

And as I said, the little box telling me it's sorting the tracks is intermittent, it's not doing it at the moment. That doesn't mean it's not a bug, though, as Rex just said he had it happen to him. And tags worked again after restarting the player, but again that doesn't mean it's not bugged, it probably means that one of the plugins failed.


I understand. I know there is a bug somewhere, I just thought it might be something in the File ID since I had mine unchecked and I wasn't getting the messages and I was able to read my tags. I was in no way suggesting you was wrong! I would NEVER EVER do that. You are the first one that I would ask if I ran into a problem that I could not solve.

[Protocol]

The new "Recently Played" is not working correctly for me either.

It has about 5 listings, and only one is right. The others are a strange list of tracks from my Media Library without any played date. It just looks like a replication of parts of my Media Library.

[Rex_Mundi_Incarnit]

Oh yeah, forgot to mention that double-clicking an album on the left side of the ML to play it doesn't work for me either. :cry:

Yup confirmed again. Seems like the ML has gone crook.

[Toe]

Just noticed that 'Sort added files by filename on load' isn't working here either.

I'm about ready to go back to b119... :disappoin

[jonkofied]

hey thnx guys:)

[Protocol]

Just noticed that 'Sort added files by filename on load' isn't working here either.

I'm about ready to go back to b119... :disappoin
Maybe B119 should be released as final, and B120+ released as beta. :ponder:

[Toe]

I always set MusicID to 'only update empty fields', but sometimes QMP is resetting it to 'update the library except for tracks I've edited'. I haven't found the exact steps to reproduce this consistently, but I've seen it happen more than once now.

Seems to be a pattern of certain preferences not getting saved properly, or being ignored outright. Perhaps they're related?

By the way, I notice that when you uninstall QMP, if you used 'install for all users' it doesn't give you the option to remove installed skins and such. Is that how it's supposed to work?

Also, when I've been doing these uninstall/reinstalls, QMP sees to be crashing pretty often while importing my library. But then if I restart & retry the import, it seems to go ok.

[Toe]

A minor cosmetic bug: if you use the color chooser button from the skin colors screen, when you come back to the main screen the Saturation slider still shows the old color until you move the mouse over the picker.

By the way, any chance we'll ever be able to colorize different parts of the player, instead of the whole thing? :)

[Todd The Kiwi]

ha ha go toe :coffee:

[Rex_Mundi_Incarnit]

I dont want to be a prick but what is this for?

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v405/RMI/whatsthis.png

[Toe]

Uh, it's... exactly what it says it is? :ponder:

It says the name of whatever is shown, the number of tracks, and the duration of the playlist.

[Rex_Mundi_Incarnit]

Uh, it's... exactly what it says it is? :ponder:

It says the name of whatever is shown, the number of tracks, and the duration of the playlist.

Oh right, I didnt see that when you create a playlist, there is some info in the duration column as well. Sorting (by clicking on the tabs) doesn't seem to work for recent radio/audio so I couldn't make sense of it.

[Tokelil]

Anyone else having problems with the player "stops" when a song is finished?

I have experienced quite a few times that the player stops playing after a song is finished. The player state is still as if it was playing, but the display is stopped with 5 seconds left of the song. (Crossfading output plug-in buffer set to 4 seconds) I need to manually hit the next button to make it continue. Looking at the playstate in the replaygain configuration it says that no song is playing.

[Rex_Mundi_Incarnit]

Anyone else having problems with the player "stops" when a song is finished?


Yup happens here. And sometimes the player even crashes. BUT I haven't investigated it. Could also be caused by one of the plugins I installed.

[Tokelil]

I actually figured this one out some time ago and seems to be the same problem that has haunted me today.

The problem is that if I add some songs to the playlist and then move them (so the entries are invalid) then the play will stop playing when it tries to play one of the songs. (The song is blocked after the playback try though) I just never got around to really test it and file a bug report on it.

Edit: Ofc. I can't reproduce it with a small playlist when I want to :(

[lynott]

"Play Next" is broken in 120. It simply does not work.

[Tokelil]

"Play Next" is broken in 120. It simply does not work.Works for me.

[lynott]

Found the problem. It only works if I play the entire song bebore "Play Next". If i move to near the end of a song ant then let it finish it simply continious with the playlist.

[Toe]

What's wrong with this picture? :cross-eye

http://www.toejob.org/forumpics/ml.png

Happens if I have the ML open when I switch from small/medium mode to large mode.

[Todd The Kiwi]

chaos AD mate :bulb:

[Toe]

Eh? Chaos AD is the album, Chaos BC is track 13 (http://www.amazon.com/Chaos-D-Sepultura/dp/B000000H4V/ref=pd_bbs_sr_2?ie=UTF8&s=music&qid=1202416686&sr=8-2).

[Todd The Kiwi]

f/ck! woops :(

[Protocol]

Is March still considered to be early in the year? :ponder:

[Tokelil]

Is March still considered to be early in the year? :ponder:Well if you follow the hardware world, then history shows that early is about first half of the year. ;)

[Rex_Mundi_Incarnit]

wtf it's almost March already!?! :shocked:

[lynott]

Well, there still are issues to be ironed out. Maybe a 121 would have been a good idea?

[Todd The Kiwi]

wtf it's almost March already!?! you're in oz now dorothy :laugh:

[Tropics]

wtf it's almost March already!?! :shocked:

no. 1st of march is a big party nearby, that's why i know it's not march yet. its next week. ah, did you say almost? :cyclops:

[Toe]

I always set MusicID to 'only update empty fields', but sometimes QMP is resetting it to 'update the library except for tracks I've edited'. I haven't found the exact steps to reproduce this consistently, but I've seen it happen more than once now.
A variant on this, right now QMP is set on only update empty fields (and was since install), but I'm still seeing tagged fields replaced. Specifically, I've got an album with different track artists tagged, but all the same album artist. But the ML is showing the album artist in the track artist column. Either it updated fields with MusicID data that it shouldn't have, or the track artist column is actually pulling its data from the album artist field. Likewise, format of play queue entry is also set to display track artist, but is actually showing album artist.

b121, plz. :disappoin

[Toe]

Cosmetic bug: if you switch the media library from audio or video view over to radio, the Prefs button gets messed up. On audio & video the button says View Prefs, but on radio it's just Prefs, and when you switch it doesn't redraw correctly.

[lynott]

Ta di dum, last month of the first quarter. The red button has turned green with mould. Nah, seriously, just kidding... but commenting in the bug section would be nice :)

[Rex_Mundi_Incarnit]

I get the feeling that early 2008 means the first half of 2008. Plus i'd like to see one more dev build because b120 has more re-introduced bugs than b119 had. :ponder:

[Rex_Mundi_Incarnit]

Anyone want to make a bet with me that there wont be anything happening until at least April? April is still early 2008, right? Feck, time should slow down already.

[markdentoffe]

I'll give an update on my B120 experiences here.

-Overall it works fine. No major problems.
-When I change a setting and QMP crashes, the setting isn't saved (any setting, e.g. assigning a hotkey).
-Load new plugin -> No playback plugin selected (that's a reported bug for sure).
-Main window size is fubar at startup. It's even a lot bigger than my screen, while it has to be the smallest the skin allows. I have a "skin position 1"-hotkey, but still. Don't know if it's skin issue or not. Skin in question is Rex's QMPVista.
-Visual (Sonique2QCD) often not found. I need to load new plugins for it to work again (which is annoying because it interrupts playback).
-Crash at program exit (when I have closed QMP, I get a windows program error -> close message). Since I already closed it, it doesn't bother me, but the crash message is annoying, and in combination with my second remark this becomes rather significant.

[LennyNero]

Maybe B119 should be released as final, and B120+ released as beta. :ponder:

You cant call b119 Final ...and then have b120, not very final.

But I expect that Stable [b119] and Beta [b120] could be a better way to go. The only thing I have against that is I have yet to find any real problems with b120, apart from one that is related to a plug in ...but then I have only had about ~8 hours use from it so far.

It carried all of my settings and skins across with a simple overlay install.

[Protocol]

You cant call b119 Final ...and then have b120, not very final.

Why not?

QMP b119 can be released as v5 or whatever Paul decides to call it, then progress from there with b120 for further development under the banner of b001 or wherever Paul decides to start his next development version numbering.

But I suspect the next release will be quite different to what we have already seen with the development builds, so it isn't really worth talking about. :cool:

[zerolllone]

Hey, sorry about that slight pause since Build 119.

Last beta release.

-Paul

Last Beta? Really? Not 2010? Cool. Im not complaining here. But this is just a cool piece of software that I would buy if it were commercial. Just so Paul "the man" can build a team and speed things a bit. Looking forward to the official release. The 4.51 realease was superfast in ripping CDs. I wonder if this feature was retained? And the cool Tag Editor should be. It's almost perfect 'cept for the fact u cant attach album art to it. Sorry for asking, I don't like installing beta versions. See ya in 2009 for the Official Version. Peace.

[Protocol]

Last Beta? Really? Not 2010? Cool. Im not complaining here. But this is just a cool piece of software that I would buy if it were commercial. Just so Paul "the man" can build a team and speed things a bit.
I would be happy to see a paid version of QMP if it meant better and faster development.

Maybe there could be a free and non-free version. Just a thought. :normal:

[Todd The Kiwi]

dang, i missed the one year anniversary of b120 on 21/1/09 :cross-eye

[BALTY]

dang, i missed the one year anniversary of b120 on 21/1/09 :cross-eye
Is it up yet? Hardware error? WTF?:gasmask:

[Protocol]

Is it up yet? Hardware error? WTF?:gasmask:
Yeah, the hardware error was the actual building. It collapsed. :ditsy:

[BALTY]

Yeah, the hardware error was the actual building. It collapsed. :ditsy:
NW man. You are not serious?:nervous:
How long has this test site been up? Who found it first?
:carrot: Paul send a msg out to Todd or something?
I guess (if that truly happened, about the blg collapsed), that's why they say "keep backups off site". [Just don't leave them in your car overnight if you work for a federal govt agency.:bulb: :silly: ]
But seriously... fill me in on what happened.