QMP and 2008

[Paul]

Merry Christmas! I hope everyone had a heartfelt 2007.

'Tis that time of year to put our rampant purchasing to a rest and actually use our gifts, all the while listening to endless countdowns of every topic on the radio.

And above all else, it's time to complain about the lack of QMP releases.

Since August I have been trying to get QMP 5.0 released. But growing a family and performing at my job took my focus away. Here we are, end of 2007 and QMP is languishing.

But I bring good news. A new website is staged. A new skin is readied. A new build is set. We *have* been working on it. And I will get it all out some day when I decide to hit this big red button on my desk.

I apologize for not being active on the boards for the past few months. But I have to say, all of you have been absolutely fantastic in your support of QMP. The stats for the website never waver. The downloads never drop.

Once Christmas vacation is over, early in the new year, I will hit the red button and all the work will be released. 2008 will be a very good year for QMP.

Take care all. Have a great holiday!

-Paul Quinn

[Willow of Oz]

Great news Paul.

Wishing you and your family a very Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year.

[Rex_Mundi_Incarnit]

Merry xmas to you too Paul and your relatives. I can't wait to see the new website/qmp build :) I have faith in 2008 :heart:

[gold24]

great news happy to hear u are on track and hope to hear soon new info about the new player

[Solon]

Woooo good news. Now to wait for a wine improvement

I wish I could code.

[zerolllone]

Merry Christmas! I hope everyone had a heartfelt 2007.

'Tis that time of year to put our rampant purchasing to a rest and actually use our gifts, all the while listening to endless countdowns of every topic on the radio.

And above all else, it's time to complain about the lack of QMP releases.

Since August I have been trying to get QMP 5.0 released. But growing a family and performing at my job took my focus away. Here we are, end of 2007 and QMP is languishing.

But I bring good news. A new website is staged. A new skin is readied. A new build is set. We *have* been working on it. And I will get it all out some day when I decide to hit this big red button on my desk.

I apologize for not being active on the boards for the past few months. But I have to say, all of you have been absolutely fantastic in your support of QMP. The stats for the website never waver. The downloads never drop.

Once Christmas vacation is over, early in the new year, I will hit the red button and all the work will be released. 2008 will be a very good year for QMP.

Take care all. Have a great holiday!

-Paul Quinn

YAH RIGHT... 2009 is a more realistic target release. Merry Xmas dude.

[RaiseHell]

Great news, really looking forward to the next release.

[Tokelil]

Merry Christmas and a happy new year to you and you relatives. Can't wait to see qmp (and the pdk...) finally released in the new year.

Edit: @all others: Please ignore zerolllones comment.

[lynott]

Grovvy, good news :)

Happy holidays to y'all

[squeege2]

Good to hear from you Paul. That is really great news..."The Big Red Button". Have a very happy holiday and take it easy.:laugh:

[atomicross]

I'm glad to hear all is well with you and your family Paul, and thanks for the update. :)

[idefiXX]

Thank you for the update and thank you, too, for your continuous efforts to make that player better every day.
I love hearing that a new website and build are on their way.
Merry Christmas, Paul.

[shaohao]

http://www.quinnware.com/forum/images/emots/post/thumbup.gif

[badbite26]

Right On!!!!! Thanks for the update Paul!!!!

[WHAT?]

...about the good news. Hope the forum itself is the same however!

[Rex_Mundi_Incarnit]

If we loose our post count...ouch! ha ha

[Rex_Mundi_Incarnit]

Paul, will the new site be validated by W3C (http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.quinnware.com&charset=%28detect+automatically%29&doctype=Inline&group=0) by any chance? That would rock! XHTML 1.1 strict awesomeness :P

PS HTML Transitional is good too aye as long as it validates.

[Katt]

Great! I thought QMP was dead there for a while! Great job, I can't wait!

[Slisochies]

I guess we'll just go on waiting...

[artali]

Great news Paul.

Happy New Year from Poland. ;)

Regards

[ltsnow]

Paul, thanks for the update and all the great work you have done. I wish you a very happy and healthy new year.

[Protocol]

Any screenshots??? :ponder:

[Toe]

A new skin is readied.
Ooer! All-new, or an overhaul of the current one? :ponder:

Paul, will the new site be validated by W3C (http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.quinnware.com&charset=%28detect+automatically%29&doctype=Inline&group=0) by any chance? That would rock! XHTML 1.1 strict awesomeness :P

Psst! Rex! There's no such thing as "XHTML 1.1 Strict". It's just 'XHTML 1.1' - there's no 'Transitional' version of it. Also, the XHTML 1.1 spec requires that it be sent with an XML mime-type (rather than HTML). And since Internet Explorer does not support pages with XML mime-types at all, there's really no sense in using XHTML 1.1 on public websites unless you're doing something server-side to only send that doctype to browsers that support it. (XHTML 1.0 does allow an HTML mime-type, and thus is much more useful for here & now.)

[Rex_Mundi_Incarnit]

I know all that Toe. I was just adding the word strict to emphasize clean webcoding but I dont care if it will be good ol standard html. XML is still ftw tho :P

[Toe]

Aye, if a site chooses HTML 4.01 Strict as its validation target, I have no problem with that. In fact, I would consider it preferable over sending otherwise-clean XHTML 1.1 with an HTML mime-type.

[Zayoos]

Yeah, great! :)
Now I'm just waiting for new PDK. :foureyes:

Happy New Year for everyone. :beer:

[orlach]

Great news Paul! Enjoy the rest of the holidays, and in the new year, we'll all pounce on you for releases. :-)

Happy new year's all a' dang y'all.

[duckie]

Oops, I'm very much late, but thanks for the update Paul. Happy holidays.

[Katt]

I'm gonna check the homepage everyday after newyear, one of those days I will go "whooo, cool!". ;)

[Protocol]

I sense that this is going to be big. :globe:

How about a sneak peak for all the long time faithful? :ponder:

[Rex_Mundi_Incarnit]

Ha ha exclusive members only :cheerful: Even mods don't get shit to see aye...pardon my language

[Protocol]

Ha ha exclusive members only :cheerful: Even mods don't get shit to see aye...pardon my language
You never know mate. ;)

[Todd The Kiwi]

If we loose our post count...ouch! ha haha ha :p

good to hear this Paul v5.0 sounds good :laugh:

[diffy]

I REALLY hope you will include .FLAC and .CUE support OUT OF THE BOX.

That is the only way I can make all my friends "make the switch" - by telling them to download it, and install it... None of them wants to go through the extra fuzz of getting plugins, it's too arcane for non-technical (but really cool) people :)


MAKE THE QUINNWARE VERSATILE!!!


btw, have been loving this software since march 2004. But none of my friends want to have a go at it because it doesn't support enough formats...:(

Thank you for all the work, really looking forward to the next version.
It's been a while, yep :)

[bmc152003]

i had just about given up hope. my default player right now is the newest Winamp build. I hope qmp 5.0 will change that.

[Todd The Kiwi]

i had just about given up hope. my default player right now is the newest Winamp build. I hope qmp 5.0 will change that.heathen! of ya go then... :silly:

[Rex_Mundi_Incarnit]

Wooo 2008 already! Bring it on!

[RaiseHell]

lol, just wanted to post the same. ;-)

[svwspider]

Great News !!!

Here's to hoping you had a great Christmas and a Happy New Year!

2008 is looking up.....

Great work and many, many thanks for the great player.

:silly:

[sonogabriele]

Felicitaciones! a todo el grupo que hace posible este sitio y a este excelente programa q uso hace mucho mucho tiempo. Espero con mucho orgullo la nueva version. Exitoso año para todos y para quintessential :cool:

pd: congratulations all team Quintessential, happy new year to all people that use this soft.

pd2: sry for my english :laugh:

[Rex_Mundi_Incarnit]

Let me just give all the infrequent posters of the quinn forums my best wishes for 2008 as well. And please don't be shy and let your voice be heard in the community forum below too :beer: Cheers!

[lynott]

Push, push the red button. Make it GREEEEEN :)

[Toe]

Oh, how long can trusty Cadet Paul hold out? How can he possibly resist the diabolical urge to push the button that could launch his battle-ready player? Will his tortured mind give in to it's uncontrollable desires? Can he withstand the temptation to push the button, that even now, beckons him ever closer? Will he succumb to the maddening urge to eradicate the current websitesite design, at the mere push of a single button? The beautiful, shiny button! The jolly, candy-like button! Will he hold out, folks? Can he hold out?

[Rex_Mundi_Incarnit]

/me sings to the tune of Chemical Brothers "Push the button"

[B.E.L.B.H.D.]

I wonder how new this 'new' skin is going to be. I can't see why it would be much different than that in the development builds, and wouldn't another completely new skin just require more builds to correct bugs?

[Protocol]

I wonder if it looks anything like this. :ponder: :paranoid: ;)

http://images.jupiterimages.com/common/detail/21/21/22252121.jpg

[WHAT?]

Obviously it not the EASY BUTTON.
As far as this site... The look and feel is what keeps me coming back! [Don't say it!:paranoid: ]
Well, maybe the forum itself will stay the same, just the other parts of the site is what's meant. Yes then, I concur - it's in need of an overhaul!:coffee:

[badbite26]

Man, I still haven't learned my way around this site.

[B.E.L.B.H.D.]

Man, I still haven't learned my way around this site.

I can't remember the last time I went anywhere on this site besides the forum.

[Equinoxe]

To all - Best wishes for the New Year.

Back from vacation and some travels -- Can't wait for V5.0 release.

/ted

[markdentoffe]

Ah, bit late here.:o
A very merry christmas and a good 2008 to all of you.:)
And thanks, Paul, for the update. Can't wait.

I would like the site to be w3c valid, but not xhtml2.0. That's ridiculous. It has silly restrictions, like you're not allowed to use an inline-level tag like <a> outside of a block-level tag (like <p>). So you have to make a new paragraph for every tiny link.:rolleyes:
Anyway, xhtml1.0 will do. XHTML1.0 is basically just clean html: You can't make stupid errors anymore, and you have to close your tags. Otherwise it's pretty much the same. It's only with xhtml1.1 and 2.0 that the big changes come, imho.

[Toe]

I would like the site to be w3c valid, but not xhtml2.0. That's ridiculous.
The XHTML 2.0 standard is still in draft stage, of course you shouldn't be using it on live websites. :ditsy:

[traveller]

Hope everyone had a good holiday, and is ready for action in 2008. Paul, it's good to hear/see that you are doing well. Looking forward to great things soon (no pressure!).;)

[Protocol]

Come on Paul. Hit that big red button. I know you can do it. :ponder: :rolleyes:

[lynott]

I guess that the new site has to be polished with screens and features etc before the anticipateted button will be pressed :)
If you're going to a party, a shower just isn't enough. You have to have your suit pressed end readied too :)

[Tropics]

i fully understand what "real life" means, especially in the context of such a big software project. sometimes you don't even get to code for weeks - at least for me that was the case several times. my last such "pause" was several months long. i don't want to sound unfriendly (and please forgive me if i do as i'm not very skilled with the english language), but i sometimes have the feeling that it is sometimes forgotten around here that paul does not get paid for qmp, and i think that living the real life should always be more important than coding.

i really like qmp and i am looking forward to the next beta release or the final release, whichever it may be. keep up the great work!

[idefiXX]

i fully understand what "real life" means, especially in the context of such a big software project. sometimes you don't even get to code for weeks - at least for me that was the case several times. my last such "pause" was several months long. i don't want to sound unfriendly (and please forgive me if i do as i'm not very skilled with the english language), but i sometimes have the feeling that it is sometimes forgotten around here that paul does not get paid for qmp, and i think that living the real life should always be more important than coding.

i really like qmp and i am looking forward to the next beta release or the final release, whichever it may be. keep up the great work!
Well said, thanks man.

[carbonize]

Since August I have been trying to get QMP 5.0 released.

-Paul Quinn

QMP 5 or QCD 5? I mean surely QMP final would be QMP 1?

BTW glad to hear you're still alive. I was getting worried for a while.

[Toe]

Actually, it was established quite a while ago that the final ver will be called QMP 5.0. :)

[carbonize]

Wow confusing.

[bmc152003]

Wow confusing.

yeah, but not as bad as Winamp 2 + Winamp 3 = Winamp 5

[Todd The Kiwi]

yeah, but not as bad as Winamp 2 + Winamp 3 = Winamp 5they said "winamp 4 would just suck, so we skipped one" i forget where i read that.

[Fnatte79]

Wohoo!!!
The best news for 2008 so far... really looking forward to this.
I actually use WinAmp right now *shame on me* :pirate:
but when I unpack my computer at home it will get am extreme
makeover, for the better... well, QMP for a better :globe:

[B.E.L.B.H.D.]

I guess since everyone is assuming/hoping sometime in January, we only have half a month left.

[Ragas]

Ahh you've made me checking daily. :knocked-o

[Tokelil]

I guess since everyone is assuming/hoping sometime in January, we only have half a month left.February is still early 2008 in my book...

[Toe]

Ahh you've made me checking daily. :knocked-o
There's an RSS news feed on the front page, you know. :)

[Heigar]

There's an RSS news feed on the front page, you know. :)


There's a front page?:laugh:

[Ragas]

There's an RSS news feed on the front page, you know. :)

uii thanks... didnt know that

[lynott]

Well, 119 is working just fine, so there's no hurry.
I'm just friggin curious ;)

Curious about the new skin.
curious if there's any changes to ML.

There are several updates to other media players, and new ones are popping up. Well, I couldn't care less. Once Qmp, always Qmp :)

[B.E.L.B.H.D.]

I wonder if we could get any say in what songs should be playing on the image of QMP for the homepage. For QCD, the picture shows Blink 182. What does everyone think? Justin Timberlake?:ponder:

[Todd The Kiwi]

ok ok ok , i'll do it: belbhd man, i think we need a chat... ;) :cheeky:

it'll be brian adams fer sur :paranoid:

[Rex_Mundi_Incarnit]

Is there no artist called "quintessential" or something?

[markdentoffe]

Dunno about Blink 182, but Stockholm Syndrome is a song by Muse. They're excellent!
But maybe it's a cover. Wouldn't be their first.
Come to think of it, that screenshot is probably older than Muse.:ponder:

Hmm, some research showed that they're both from 2003, but they're independent songs with the same title.

"Quintessential" is a song by "maestro fresh wes".

[Qaz]

There's a band called Quintessence (in fact, at least two of them).

[zisworg]

Attention competitors! QMP 5 arrives in 2008. :devil:

niark niark niark!! :grin:

[Todd The Kiwi]

Attention competitors! QMP 5 arrives in 2008. :devil:

niark niark niark!!ha ha this made me laugh :laugh:

"look out bitches qmp's ready to roll!"

[Protocol]

Attention competitors! QMP 5 arrives in 2008. :devil:

niark niark niark!! :grin:
It's had a longer buildup than the Olympics. :chinese: :ponder:

[Protocol]

This should be a big year for QMP. :beer:

[Todd The Kiwi]

we've been floating around @ quinnware/forums for almost 5 years :scared:

just quietly I'm concerned for my post count :depressed
it's like my only achievement in almost 5 years...

[zisworg]

No news Paul? :paranoid:

[Todd The Kiwi]

i reckon if qmp didn't get updated for, say, another year.
i'd still use it [to play mp3s]

take your time Paul, it's better to make sure something is right aye.

[Neo]

Yes, take your time Paul... like Mike Holmes of Holmes on Homes says "Make it Right™" :biggrin:

[WHAT?]

Or... Johnny Holmes (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Holmes_(actor)). Slow, and errrr?:silly:

[Willow of Oz]

just quietly I'm concerned for my post count :depressed
it's like my only achievement in almost 5 years...

Oh, no it's not.
There's been some content in there :biggrin:

[batenka]

And anxiously wait for new version :globe:

[Protocol]

Relax!

The red button has jammed. Paul's doing his best to fix it. :silly:

[Toe]

Paul's birthday is soon, maybe we'll see some presents?

[Todd The Kiwi]

Paul's birthday is soon, maybe we'll see some presents?no pun right.

[gold24]

just a bit of news to keep us updated could be nice but still simply cant wait to hear any updates right now i dont see any player that can compete with winamp

[Toe]

The anniversary of QMP 4.51's release is coming up...

[Protocol]

i dont see any player that can compete with winamp
I guess that is a personal opinion and what you expect from your player. :ponder:

[Todd The Kiwi]

perhaps we should, y'know, kumbaya and shit :bulb:

come together right here (http://freekidsmusic.com/traditional/kumbaya.html) bruthas 'n sistas.

[Sam]

I've had Paul's software for over 10 years when it used to be shareware. I can't wait until the next release. :silly:

[Todd The Kiwi]

10 years!? :silly:

i'm rolling on 5 i think?

[hedge]

10 years!? :silly:

i'm rolling on 5 i think?

Yeah 5 sounds about right, I've been around for something like that as well, through various stages of using and not using qcd/qmp :P

[Todd The Kiwi]

minus linux forays aye mate! :scared: :cross-eye

[hedge]

minus linux forays aye mate! :scared: :cross-eye

Lol yeah one I'm in the midst of atm. And for the first time, actually quite enjoying :O

[acozz]

Paul
qmp = Quinn-Matt-Paul?
Last Activity: 03-26-2008 11:29 AM

[Toe]

And before that, the last activity was like 2 months prior.

[B.E.L.B.H.D.]

maybe it's qmp = quinn MINUS matt MINUS paul...quinn, whoever you are, the future rests with you...

[jawpr]

www.xmplay.com:scared:

[Todd The Kiwi]

i don't know about you guys but i'm just quietly wigging out :ermm:
what if that's it, all over? the site expires, paul gets a new job and does the whole dad/family thing.
then what xmplay, foobar, winamp?

i dread to think... :(

[fromatoz]

what if that's it, all over? the site expires, paul gets a new job and does the whole dad/family thing.
then what xmplay, foobar, winamp?

i dread to think... :(

you could open an "in memorial" website :skull: :bulb:

[lynott]

i don't know about you guys but i'm just quietly wigging out :ermm:
what if that's it, all over? the site expires, paul gets a new job and does the whole dad/family thing.
then what xmplay, foobar, winamp?

i dread to think... :(

I've been thinking about the same thing for quite a while now :(

[Willow of Oz]

i don't know about you guys but i'm just quietly wigging out :ermm:
what if that's it, all over? the site expires, paul gets a new job and does the whole dad/family thing.
then what xmplay, foobar, winamp?

i dread to think... :(

Ah, but two things.
I'm running qmp here. Now. There's nothing that says I can't continue to run it until I find something better. If it doesn't get updated for 2 years, I'm not actually forced to use something else. I know Roj has said this before, but I actually agree.

Second of all, my systems at home are transitioning slowly to linux, and they aren't, as of yet, wining anything, so I'm not actually running qmp at home. I do still have to find something that's at least not sucky. Everything I have used so far is sucky. I have not looked hard, however.

[Rex_Mundi_Incarnit]

I do still have to find something that's at least not sucky. Everything I have used so far is sucky. I have not looked hard, however.

Amarok mate. Next big thing on the linux box. Major update is coming soon plus a port to windows. I can't wait.

[Willow of Oz]

Amarok mate. Next big thing on the linux box. Major update is coming soon plus a port to windows. I can't wait.

Yeah, true, that's right.
I haven't used the new kde 4.x series yet.

[hedge]

Amarok mate. Next big thing on the linux box. Major update is coming soon plus a port to windows. I can't wait.

Amarok has its good points, but it also fails in some ways.
Replaygain, some form of configurable audio backend...
The audio backend thing: anyone know much about Linux's audio backend/ ends. All I know is Alsa is the go these days, with OSS being considered rather outdated?
Amarok is using Xine. Xine then hooks into what Alsa again? So Xine is actually doing the decoding?
Bah, I can generally make sense of things on linux if i troll about the internet enough, but this has me rather lost.
Beyond that, is there any way to do some resampling if needed, how do I set output format/ bitrate?

[hedge]

And in terms of qmp, give it time, Paul generally pulls something out.
I think instead of using up whatever free time he has visiting this here forum he codes instead. Least thats the dream ;)

[Todd The Kiwi]

my experience with linux audio: it's like trying to get a *retarded, drunk monkey
to tightrope walk backwards along fishing line at night in a strong wind.
you're SO HAPPY that it works but you just KNOW it won't last ha ha

dudes - i'm not switching players for anybody
qmp here is 'just' [cough, only?!] an mp3 player anyway so =)





*no retarded monkeys were harmed during this post.

[Soundproof]

Sorry to be slightly off topic here, but for Windows I suggest trying out AIMP. It's a nice player with excellent sound quality. It does have a library, but its (library) interface is somewhat lacking. For me personnaly it does not matter, since I stopped cataloging my music anyway. Like foobar it has tabbed playlist interface, but main window is much sleeker. I would say it has definitely replaced Winamp as my main music player. It does not support video btw. AIMP (http://www.aimp.ru)

[Tokelil]

Could a mod please move all this linux and other player talk to the appropriate threads? They don't really belong in this thread IMO.

[Todd The Kiwi]

Paul is the ONLY mod for this forum...

and willow started it ;)
either willow or hedge, ruffians :cheeky:

[hedge]

Paul is the ONLY mod for this forum...

and willow started it ;)
either willow or hedge, ruffians :cheeky:


pff it was Rex :P

[Protocol]

Naa. Keep this thread going.

It hasn't seen this much activity in a long time. :cyclops:

[Rex_Mundi_Incarnit]

pff it was Rex :P

I'm surprised it has Toke concerned. When the cat's away from home, the mice play ;)

QMP = Duke Nukem Forever.... :cheeky:

[Todd The Kiwi]

heeeey Paul was just here! :scared: :silly:

[Protocol]

heeeey Paul was just here! :scared: :silly:
I have seen him login briefly a few times in recent weeks.

Brace yourselves kids. :rolleyes:

[Todd The Kiwi]

i can feel it in my water :cross-eye

[Rex_Mundi_Incarnit]

i can feel it in my water :cross-eye

Don't let him burst your bubble ha ha

[badbite26]

My special place is numb with anticipation,...

[Todd The Kiwi]

the billiards room, wtf? :rolleyes:

[badbite26]

the billiards room, wtf? :rolleyes:

Yep.

[gold24]

with all the new players around aimp winamp baseplayer and ect its a wonder we keep this player alive but yes i think its time we heard some news about the new qmp

[sonogabriele]

and....??? :dead: :depressed

[Todd The Kiwi]

hang in there lads! :globe:

[airmcnair06]

whats up with all the complaining? I've been using the same qcd (4.51) since 2002. I JUST upgraded to the new one today(build 120). I dont understand why people are complaining?

[Toe]

I've been using the same qcd (4.51) since 2002.
I find that hard to believe, given that in 2002, QCD was only at version 3.40. :cross-eye

But think of it this way: Quintessential Player version 3.51 was released in April 2003. Version 4.0 was released just a few months later in August 2003. Version 4.51 came another few months later, in May 2004. 4.51 was the last official release. We went from a few months between official releases to over four years.

[airmcnair06]

I find that hard to believe, given that in 2002, QCD was only at 3.40. :cross-eye

I knew someone would point that out. I didn't mean that literally. I meant the same old version, no big update is what I mean.....

I used the current version in 04 and didn't get 4.5 until like last year

[Tokelil]

whats up with all the complaining? I've been using the same qcd (4.51) since 2002. I JUST upgraded to the new one today(build 120). I dont understand why people are complaining?I want a player that progresses and changes to my needs. I want a player where I feel I have some control on where it is going. With no updates to the issues I have I'm moving on to players that behaves the way I want, or player I can change.

[lynott]

...and to have a player I know is still being developed. There are no news since the late 2007 message about an early 2008 release, and that kind of worries me. I really want this player to be devloped further. I have not found any player that can match Qmp. So Paul..... please, give us a word on what's going on. Should we still be patient, or should we start to look for other players?

[jawpr]

I want a player that progresses and changes to my needs. I want a player where I feel I have some control on where it is going. With no updates to the issues I have I'm moving on to players that behaves the way I want, or player I can change.

Like where???
VuPlayer has also stopped production. It seems like some people are losing interest in working on them.

[NorthboundTrain]

I just want an awesome player, and QMP is that awesome player, for me. YMMV and surely will, but I'm a happy camper.

[hedge]

I'm just kinda surprised, we were pretty close to another major release. Was really just bug triage left between the last beta and a release.
Hopefully nothing happened to Paul :(

[Toe]

Last Activity: 05-16-2008 11:40 PM

I've been wondering for a while if there's some external issue delaying the release. Remember the 'political reasons' that delayed the first dev build of QMP?

[jawpr]

I've been wondering for a while if there's some external issue delaying the release. Remember the 'political reasons' that delayed the first dev build of QMP?


It might be political. The only thing I remember Paul saying that was holding the release up was he was waiting on Matt to do the web-site. Also, he has found another interest that he told us about not too long ago and he is a family man now so maybe he just doesn't have the time to mess with the player anymore. I really hate it because I haven't found another player that I like as good as I like QMP.
Maybe he will let us know something soon so we can decide what we are going to do.

[Todd The Kiwi]

i'll probably keep using it until it just doesn't work any more =)

[NorthboundTrain]

i'll probably keep using it until it just doesn't work any more =)

I'm with you, Todd!

Actually, I'm contemplating buying a Mac and the very thought of leaving QMP and using iTunes is one of two things holding up the deal.

[Todd The Kiwi]

http://www.getsharepod.com/ seems kind of nifty =) [if you have an iPoo]

discovered the itunes download is FIFTY SEVEN MEGA BYTES!!!! :cross-eye


yo Paul, bring it man :silly:

[WHAT?]

Guys, Guys, Guys... It's not even Summer yet!:cheeky:

[Toe]

I would consider the most generous definition of 'early' 2008 to be the first half of the year. There's only 2 weeks left to meet that definition.

[Rex_Mundi_Incarnit]

Crikey! It's already almost halfway 2008! Whyy??? :ponder:

[Ferahgo]

Today's the day where sun shines longest here in Germany.
Would't that be an appropriate reason to publish QMP today? :D

[Protocol]

Today's the day where sun shines longest here in Germany.
Would't that be an appropriate reason to publish QMP today? :D
No. Because today is the day that the sun shines for the shortest time here in Oz. :rolleyes:

[Ferahgo]

No. Because today is the day that the sun shines for the shortest time here in Oz. :rolleyes:

So you say we'll have to wait another half a year? ;)

[Rex_Mundi_Incarnit]

Enjoy the silence :biggrin:

[Willow of Oz]

No. Because today is the day that the sun shines for the shortest time here in Oz. :rolleyes:
That's a depressing way of saying that last night was the longest night of the year.
party party party


Okay, so I was going to go to a party, but I just stayed home and drank.
And now I'm out of ..kahlua. For a moment there I couldn't remember what it was I ran out of :shocked:

[Rex_Mundi_Incarnit]

That's a depressing way of saying that last night was the longest night of the year.
party party party


Okay, so I was going to go to a party, but I just stayed home and drank.
And now I'm out of ..kahlua. For a moment there I couldn't remember what it was I ran out of :shocked:

I had two winter solstice parties last two nights. Still not sure which one had it correct. :knocked-o :beer: One was also themed the anti-Christmas party since x-mas should be in the winter he he. Yes we did presents and Santa was there :)

Totally offtopic but meh not my fault until we get an update on qmp.

[Todd The Kiwi]

woo hoo anything goes in here... :cool:

[Willow of Oz]

One was also themed the anti-Christmas party since x-mas should be in the winter he he. Yes we did presents and Santa was there :)


Actually, it's supposed to be "Christmas in July", and it's done in lots of places. Or at least, lots of little crappy towns in the aussie bush, like where I grew up. Maybe your folks had to be Irish too :silly:.

[Rex_Mundi_Incarnit]

Actually, it's supposed to be "Christmas in July", and it's done in lots of places. Or at least, lots of little crappy towns in the aussie bush, like where I grew up. Maybe your folks had to be Irish too :silly:.

Awesome! That means I'm going to have three x-masses this year! :bandit:

[Hanzo]

Probably off-topic, but I've had to switch QCD 4.51 as my secondary player, WMP11 becoming the primary, since the QMP library is not as good as WMP's...

I've tried to catch up with the forums, however I do not see any development on this nice piece of software... :depressed

[Tokelil]

Probably off-topic, but I've had to switch QCD 4.51 as my secondary player, WMP11 becoming the primary, since the QMP library is not as good as WMP's...[QUOTE=Hanzo;104133]You think? The only thing the WMP has over qmp is the album view IMO.

[QUOTE=Hanzo;104133]I've tried to catch up with the forums, however I do not see any development on this nice piece of software... :depressedWe are all left in the dark. :(

[Hanzo]

We are all left in the dark. :(

Sniff, sniff... :(

[Rex_Mundi_Incarnit]

Wooo Hanzo's back! yay! What have you been up to mate? :cool:

[Solon]

You think? The only thing the WMP has over qmp is the album view IMO.

I prefer iTunes's album view with the album art that you can scroll/click through much like the new ipod touch.

[Willow of Oz]

Awesome! That means I'm going to have three x-masses this year! :bandit:

So ... the next one will be an xxx mas?
:cheeky:
I want photos.

[Todd The Kiwi]

ha ha hanzo? dude welcome back :laugh:

[Toe]

I would consider the most generous definition of 'early' 2008 to be the first half of the year. There's only 2 weeks left to meet that definition.
Welcome to the second half of the year...

[Ferahgo]

Broken promises are like the worst to be..

[Todd The Kiwi]

currently linuxing here so... :silly: :bulb:

but yeah, wtf is going on i wonder?

[WHAT?]

Probably off-topic, but I've had to switch QCD 4.51 as my secondary player, WMP11 becoming the primary, since the QMP library is not as good as WMP's...

I've tried to catch up with the forums, however I do not see any development on this nice piece of software...
heh heh heh... "Off topic" lol!

I had two winter solstice parties last two nights. Still not sure which one had it correct. :knocked-o :beer: One was also themed the anti-Christmas party since x-mas should be in the winter he he. Yes we did presents and Santa was there :)

Totally offtopic but meh not my fault until we get an update on qmp.

Awesome! That means I'm going to have three x-masses this year!

So ... the next one will be an xxx mas?
:cheeky:
I want photos.
Haven't you guys been paying attention to my Keep "Christ" in "Christ"mas repartee?
I mean.. Jesus X you guys!!!!:reallymad

[Willow of Oz]

Haven't you guys been paying attention to my Keep "Christ" in "Christ"mas repartee?
I mean.. Jesus X you guys!!!!:reallymad

Thanks for the reminder!
Remind me again next time :ponder::biggrin:

[WHAT?]

;) ;)

[Hanzo]

ha ha hanzo? dude welcome back :laugh:

Wooo Hanzo's back! yay! What have you been up to mate? :cool:

Thanks dudes...
Hanging in the forums once again... working, getting a new car and a new apartment soon!

[Rex_Mundi_Incarnit]

Thanks dudes...
Hanging in the forums once again... working, getting a new car and a new apartment soon!

Still working for Dell? Or maybe im confusing you with someone else.

[Hanzo]

Still working for Dell? Or maybe im confusing you with someone else.

Well, I left Dell about two years ago... I started working in a different call center, started as a sales agent for an account that offered dial up services, moved up to workforce coordinator, after forecaster and now as a process quality analyst.

It's been quite a ride so far... I'm looking forward to see what is next in all senses... :ditsy:

[Rex_Mundi_Incarnit]

wow, that's awesome mate! Good on ya! All the way to the top to become an executive manager. You'll get there :)

[Todd The Kiwi]

ok, so, are we all just going to spam these turkeys (http://www.quinnware.com/contact.php) or what :p

[Rex_Mundi_Incarnit]

ok, so, are we all just going to spam these turkeys (http://www.quinnware.com/contact.php) or what :p

I'd say we haxxor this forum and change the banner to: Rex 'n Todd's dominion. Then we change the forum theme to something darker. Maybe a little blood here and there. And as a final touch, nuke the politics and religion thread :skull: :cyclops:

[Hanzo]

I'd say we haxxor this forum and change the banner to: Rex 'n Todd's dominion. Then we change the forum theme to something darker. Maybe a little blood here and there. And as a final touch, nuke the politics and religion thread :skull: :cyclops:

Rex 'n Todd's dominion... too cheesy!

[Todd The Kiwi]

quinnware definitely needs more blood and skulls :skull:

[Hanzo]

I'd say, more half-human demons and zombies...

[badbite26]

Night of the Living Quinnware

Texas Quinnsaw Massaware

Dawn of the Quinnware

Friday the Quinnware

Nightmare on Quinnware Street

The Quinnware on the Hill

Frankenquinnware

Dracuquinnware

Childs Play Bride of Quinnware

Night of the Quinnware Snatchers

[Todd The Kiwi]

Dracuquinnwaresounds like a drink... :silly:

[lynott]

More than six moths and no update yet. Is Qmp dead? :(

[WHAT?]

Night of the Living Quinnware

Texas Quinnsaw Massaware

Dawn of the Quinnware

Friday the Quinnware

Nightmare on Quinnware Street

The Quinnware on the Hill

Frankenquinnware

Dracuquinnware

Childs Play Bride of Quinnware

Night of the Quinnware Snatchers

Where are these so called... Men in Quinnware?

[Hanzo]

Quinnback Mountain

[WHAT?]

I keep holding on to the thought that they must be completely rewriting things, and it will be the best media player ever to hit the free market!:biggrin: And they are going to surprise us.

They will call it simply WInQuinn (or MacQuinn for MACs).
:ponder:

[Rex_Mundi_Incarnit]

Can't anyone of you in Canada give Paul a visit? ;)

[badbite26]

Quinnback Mountain

Good one!!!!!!!!!!!

I can't believe that the Quinns don't have 5 minutes to give us a brief update. I'm on xmplay anyway, but am i bovvered? No, I'm not bovvered.

[Todd The Kiwi]

e's not bovvered ha ha


i'll reinstall windows when the new version gets released, who's coming with me?! :normal:

[Rex_Mundi_Incarnit]

e's not bovvered ha ha


i'll reinstall windows when the new version gets released, who's coming with me?! :normal:

Why? QMP will actually work in linux with wine, esp. because wine went version 1.0 not too long ago ;) Check Toe's QMP wiki..

[Todd The Kiwi]

i keep forgetting about wine aye :shocked:

[Willow of Oz]

Hell, 1.1.1 was just released.

[Rex_Mundi_Incarnit]

Imagine work in progress updates like this for qmp. Wow! What a world that would be! :coffee:

After getting everyone used to a rapid cycle with new builds every 2-7 days since our beta launch, it has been 6 weeks since we pushed the last update. WTF? Such a slow development cycle is unlike us so we wanted to give you a quick update on what’s going on. I’m sure you are all eager for the new build, as we are! The upcoming release is taking longer to wrap up because it is a pretty major release. Since our public beta launch on March 20th, the #1 complaint we have heard about Digsby is that it uses too much RAM. Our explanation has always been that we released the beta without optimizing and that we would take some time to do it once the major bugs were fixed.

When the last build was pushed we decided that it was time to buckle down and get to work on the optimizations we’ve been promising! The goal was to significantly lowering RAM usage and also to improve the responsiveness of the GUI. Many people have reported that Digsby is taking 70MB - 110MB during normal use. If you leave Digsby running for several days without restarting, the memory leaks caused RAM usage to climb to 150MB+ on some systems. That is completely unacceptable by our standards!

This has been a massive undertaking and we finally have the new version built. We are testing it internally. Because this was such a major change in architecture we introduced some new bugs. We are pushing as fast as we can to fix these so we can get it out to you guys. We don’t have an exact ETA since there is a lot of uncertainty in guessing how long it will take to fix a particular bug and we are still finding new ones. However, rest assured that we are working as hard as we can to finish as quickly as possible!

RAM and performance are not the only things we have been working on. This build also introduces a ton of bug fixes and enhancements. If you have been experiencing a bug, chances are that the upcoming build will fix it. We closed over 100 tickets in our project management system since the last build! As always, we will list all the changes in the Change Log when the update goes live. For those of you who are new to Digsby, it will update the next time you launch it after an update goes live. You don’t need to download or run anything.

[Todd The Kiwi]

it was almost like that once upon a time...

the six month after release (http://www.quinnware.com/forum/calendar.php?do=getinfo&day=2008-7-21&c=1) party is coming up :ditsy:

[carbonize]

Paul is obviously busy as he still hasn't patched the exploit in QCD.

As to Digsby as well as working on reducing the ridiculous memory footprint they also need to fix the stupid little bugs they have that I have reported. Such things as opening a new tab everytime my friend on Yahoo replies to me or the fact that people could DoS you using the widget.

[h00k]

i hope he is ok or hasn't been abducted, or something nasty and sinister like that.

maybe. :scared:

[Toe]

His profile page says he was on here about a week ago.

[Todd The Kiwi]

six months since β120 was unleashed (http://http://www.quinnware.com/version_history.php)

[Todd The Kiwi]

i wonder if we'll see this threadqmp and 2009

[Rex_Mundi_Incarnit]

QMP - Quit Most People

[Toe]

This is the wait that doesn't end!

Yes it goes on and on my friend!

:ditsy:

[B.E.L.B.H.D.]

How many here are still using the player anyway? I was until mp4 files started not playing again.

[NorthboundTrain]

How many here are still using the player anyway?

Still using B119

[Toe]

Still using.

[Heigar]

Still using and will use until unusable...

[Rex_Mundi_Incarnit]

... until unusable...

When's that gonna be? :silly:

It begs the question, have you guys tried all the other media players and decided qmp is still the best OR are you guys just not bothered to give the other players a go?

[Todd The Kiwi]

Still using and will use until unusable...yeah man that's how i feel about it too.
[let's just pretend i'm not using linux at present though aye :p]When's that gonna be? :silly:

It begs the question, have you guys tried all the other media players and decided qmp is still the best OR are you guys just not bothered to give the other players a go?i'd say the latter for me mate, familiarity breeds contempt.
shopping for media players SUCKS i reckon.

[Toe]

I tried a few others recently. Some pretty good ones out there these days, but there didn't seem to be enough gain to justify the hassle of switching everything over.

[Tropics]

still using b120, and convinced a friend to use it a few weeks ago.

[bmc152003]

i still check back here every once in awhile, i have really lost hope in qmp. this thread was posted at the end of 2007 and 2008 is almost over and nothing has happened...

[Rex_Mundi_Incarnit]

...and 2008 is almost over...

Don't say that!! :shocked:

[David_jcd]

It begs the question, have you guys tried all the other media players and decided qmp is still the best OR are you guys just not bothered to give the other players a go?
The 1st one!

[markdentoffe]

Couldn't be bothered. ;)
I might one day, though. When a year has passed since the last (beta) release.

[Todd The Kiwi]

hey Paul is online right now! shhhh don't scare him away! :biggrin:

[Toe]

Yeah, but he only checks the index page to make sure the place hasn't burned down in his absence.

[Todd The Kiwi]

rustle rustle, god i feel like attenborough... :rolleyes:

[Rex_Mundi_Incarnit]

It's a deception! Paul is really a bot now!

[Antman]

I think they are at Guantanamo.

[carbonize]

I personally switched to MediaMonkey a while ago on my desktop. The resource usage of QMP's volume levelling is stupid.

[Todd The Kiwi]

you mean replay gain? the horse has bolted but have you seen mp3gain (http://mp3gain.sourceforge.net/)?
*unix version too =)

[Toe]

Can't say I've ever had any resource usage problems with QMP's ReplayGain support...

[Todd The Kiwi]

i've only ever had problems with it, i don't ever leave it ticked anymore.
wasn't there a bug about this?

[carbonize]

you mean replay gain? the horse has bolted but have you seen mp3gain (http://mp3gain.sourceforge.net/)?
*unix version too =)

Yup and MediaMonkey has it built in. MediaMonkey can either do a ReplayGain volume levelling (levels in tag) or a MP3Gain style one (level changed in file).

[Toe]

wasn't there a bug about this?
Doing a bit of searching of the forum and bug tracker, I don't see any RG bugs that aren't fixed. There was one bug where RG didn't work with the BASS plugin, but that appears to have been fixed. Once upon a time there was a crasher that occurred when scanning a track while it's playing, but that was fixed years ago. Other than that, I don't see much in the way of reported problems with RG. I certainly didn't come across any resource usage-related posts...

[Todd The Kiwi]

right, well, i'm glad we got to the bottom of that :rolleyes: ;)

[nierewa]

How does it look with the new version?
I am not certainly the only one who waits quite ardently
on a topical version of this great player.

The 120 beta is good, but no language support etc.

[Todd The Kiwi]

like the previous 7 months [to the day:p]
watch this space... :ermm:

[WHAT?]

Our biggest supplier of our main sales product parted ways with us. Actually they are a dead end company now, with no more R&D. They've been bought out three times in the last 5 years. And have no dealers any longer (so I'm saying...it's not just us). They were absorbed, and dropped. Tech support still exists for now though... at least.
So we have been scrambling to gain more products to fill the void. Unfortunately, that company had just the right niche product. But word is out now, that we are potentially unstable in our customer's eyes (by association). After all we sold them something in the last 2-5 years that is sunsetting already. Something that is a big ticket item. Try and win a bid now! Just ain't gonna be easy.

ANYWAY... The same feeling is upon me with qmp's future.:hurt:

[Todd The Kiwi]

ha ha ha what thinks this is 'general' :silly:

[WHAT?]

ha ha ha what thinks this is 'general' :silly:

It's What?

[badbite26]

So, I go to log in and to the forum and nothing, it's gone. What do I do. What do you do. What if,what if it's just gone one day. No warning, just gone. No more Quintessential forum?
I have to admit, i would miss it. I would miss some of you.
Yes I have had few glasses of wine. A very nice 2006 La Crema Chardonnay. A very nice American winery from Sonoma, California. I am feeling a little sentimental. Maybe just mental.

[Rex_Mundi_Incarnit]

What do you do.

Simple. What I've been doing all along. Get everyone I care about in my msn contacts list :D

[Todd The Kiwi]

aaw mate, don't even say that shit :cry:

sorry what? i mean, what do i mean? :silly:

[Todd The Kiwi]

i'll reinstall windows when the new version gets released, who's coming with me?!i'll gain nothing shooting my mouth off like that :rolleyes:

i may never C:/windows in my /home/ again...

office space fans anywhere?

http://coreygilmore.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2007/08/beating_a_dead_horse.jpg

[Toe]

So, I go to log in and to the forum and nothing, it's gone. What do I do. What do you do. What if,what if it's just gone one day. No warning, just gone. No more Quintessential forum?
Did you read through this thread?

http://www.quinnware.com/forum/showthread.php?t=7770

[WHAT?]

i'll gain nothing shooting my mouth off like that :rolleyes:

http://coreygilmore.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2007/08/beating_a_dead_horse.jpg
Now that's a DEAD horse.
Simple. What I've been doing all along. Get everyone I care about in my msn contacts list :D
:(

[Protocol]

So did anyone manage to find out what happened to Paul & Matt?

They haven't been in the big house or something like that, have they? :silly:

[nierewa]

That's the question.
Whats going on in the world of QCD?

[bmc152003]

bleh

[Todd The Kiwi]

is it me or has the home page been tidied up? :normal:

[Toe]

Eh? Looks the same as it has for about the last year and a half, AFAICT...

[Todd The Kiwi]

the last bit of text at the bottom looks uniform now.

stwange...

[Toe]

Well there used to be that bit about cardware and such at the bottom, but like I said, that's been gone for like a year and a half.

[Todd The Kiwi]

linux/firefox playing games :rolleyes:

[zerolllone]

Version 4.51 is the final version. This is a terminated project. However great this software may be, its shelved. Too bad.

[Rex_Mundi_Incarnit]

Version 4.51 is the final version. This is a terminated project. However great this software may be, its shelved. Too bad.

Uhm no... QMP 5 will be released from build 120 or 121. That what Paul promised :cheerful:

[Protocol]

Uhm no... QMP 5 will be released from build 120 or 121. That what Paul promised :cheerful:
:cheerful: Has he said that?

[Todd The Kiwi]

beware the doomsayer... :normal:

[Toe]

Better yet, ignore the troll. :rolleyes:

[Todd The Kiwi]

bugusnot! :pirate:

http://pics.bikerag.com/Uploads/data/500/258Troll_spray.jpg

[Stoow]

Maybe it's time to open sources for public?

[Hanzo]

I am divided between seeing the player progress as Open Source, and seeing it drift as Open Source...

[Toe]

I'd say it's unlikely that we'll see QMP open-sourced. There's several libraries in there that are closed-source and not made by Paul. Like we'd need a new default MP3 decoder, and most likely all the Gracenote stuff would go bye-bye.

Then there's the matter of finding someone to take on the project & continue to develop it. We have what, two active plugin developers? And Tokelil doesn't seem too hot on the idea.

Possible, but unlikely.

[Lich]

Even more, Paul can be unable to opensource any part of QMP because of Gracenote contract (I think it exists?).

But... damn, it hurt to see best player to stop progressing.

[Hanzo]

Even more, Paul can be unable to opensource any part of QMP because of Gracenote contract (I think it exists?).

But... damn, it hurt to see best player to stop progressing.

I didn't consider the Gracenote contract. :depressed

[Novarg]

Ehh :(