Development Build 119

[Paul]

It's out. It's groovy.

-Paul

[Rex_Mundi_Incarnit]

Woooo! :cheerful: :partyicon:

[Protocol]

I can't try it for a few hours. :scared:

[Toe]

Nice. I've actually been working on writing a 'review' of the ML lately. I just started the player (haven't even played anything yet), and I can see that a few things I was going to suggest have been implemented in this build! :)

[lillitnn92]

Awesome Paul! everything looks great. really like the Wizard idea. is there still a chance we are getting the the ability to save streams back sometime? i misss it :(

[Todd The Kiwi]

is it just me or would a download link IN these announcements be cool

and yeah thanks Paul man i'll have a go at it later
looking forward to using something that isn't β116 :P

[Todd The Kiwi]

oh hey, are we cool to over install or what?
β118 kind of wigged out when i did this.

[Willow of Oz]

I did an overwrite and it's all good.
The startup wizard was pretty nice, and things looked good afterward.
Though I do have a gripe about it remembering your current song, but not taking you to it in the playqueue (it only does that on song transitions, not the first song, so you always start looking at the top of the playqueue).

[amer]

wow nice build
everything looks fine for now
thanks
(have you changed the font in the playqueue?)

[Protocol]

Great work mate. This is a great player.

[The Big Cheese]

Nice work! I notice the fonts in the player and playlist get smoothed now.

[squeege2]

Cool...Thank you Paul ! :cool:
Groovy.....Rockin!

[bugmenot]

> I notice the fonts in the player and playlist get smoothed now

Is it possible to turn it off? I need clear & sharp fonts withouth "smoothening", i don't even have that option checked in Windows and all other app obey that except QMP - Playlist. ?:hurt:

I found one bug i think: mouse scroll on volume slider is working only for voulme down, but not up. This was also in build 116.

Oh, one more thing - i lost where the option "show songs numbering" is?

[PVTele]

It's out. It's groovy.

-Paul

It certainly is! Very very nice :cool:

(BTW the volume control works fine for me, dragging or wheeling, in both full and little modes)

[idefiXX]

Great release man, seems to work fine until now.

But please ! No more feature-adding ! We want a stable release ! ;)

[idefiXX]

> I notice the fonts in the player and playlist get smoothed now

Is it possible to turn it off? I need clear & sharp fonts withouth "smoothening", i don't even have that option checked in Windows and all other app obey that except QMP - Playlist. ?:hurt:
You can define the font for the play queue :
Preferences >> Skins >> Fonts

It could look like this for example ;) (with my favourite font, Myriad Pro)

http://m1.freeshare.us/163fs991743_th.jpg (http://m1.freeshare.us/view/?163fs991743.jpg)

[Toe]

Yeah, I'm not sure that's actually smoothed, I think it's merely bold. Bad idea, IMHO, a long list of bold text is harder to read.

[Todd The Kiwi]

Oh, one more thing - i lost where the option "show songs numbering" is?right click the playqueue option "format"

[Lich]

Thanks for the new build!

[lynott]

Custom path for the database. Great addition :)

[jonkofied]

very nice,works perfect here,good job guys !:beer:

[ernest33]

Hello,
I just found a little bug in the skin download part. The list doesn't clear when you have finished download skins (i love QLife 2.5), then if you reopen the the dowload skins page, you all the skins twice...and more :grin:

Best regards
Philippe

[Gamovrik]

I found one bug i think: mouse scroll on volume slider is working only for voulme down, but not up. This was also in build 116.


Confirm. volume up works only when crosshair is near the volume scroll bar.

[riceboyler]

Granted, this is picky, but I excel at that. :)

Under the Skins | Options menu, under Effects, Fade-in fixed skin extentions should be spelled extensions.

Otherwise, so far, looks great. Did I miss a changelog?

[Tokelil]

Did I miss a changelog?
http://www.quinnware.com/version_history.php

[riceboyler]

Thank you sir!.

As a note, on Vista Ultimate (x86), I didn't get a first run wizard on the Media Library. This is on a clean install, not an upgrade.

EDIT 8/8/2007: Upon 2nd run of Media Library, I got the wizard this morning. VERY nicely done! :)

[Tokelil]

The medialibrary doesn't seem to be loading under Win98 (SE). It doesn't even show up in the preferences->libraries.

[ace2701]

The medialibrary doesn't seem to be loading under Win98 (SE). It doesn't even show up in the preferences->libraries.

Thanks Tokelil. I was waiting for a comment like that so I wouldn't waste an unusable download. I'll just stick with b116 until Paul figures out a solution (if he intends on continuing 98SE support for us ancients ;)).

[Toe]

The medialibrary doesn't seem to be loading under Win98 (SE). It doesn't even show up in the preferences->libraries.
Wouldn't be surprised if it's the same thing that broke WINE.

[Solon]

Wouldn't be surprised if it's the same thing that broke WINE.

Could well be. Speaking of this "first run" thing, I never got that upon loading B119 for the first time.

[Tokelil]

Could well be. Speaking of this "first run" thing, I never got that upon loading B119 for the first time.The first run wizard is a plug-in for the ML, so if that doesn't load you won't get it.

[markdentoffe]

B119 looks good. Keep up the good work.
Still get the occasional crash here.:(
I'll see if I can't find details to post here next time.

[Lich]

Is there any way to disable new font-smoothing thing player-wide?

[lilgoldfish]

I'm an avid QCD user and it's been awhile since I last tried QMP. I like this build because it has some features that not too long ago I wished were in QCD. I usually don't bother with players that have the built in media library thing but I've used QCD for years and with QMP being another quinnware production, I'm looking forward to making QMP my main player.

One big problem though (well for me). Korean text is shown as squares in the Play Queue and the QuickTrack area. However, in the Media Library the Korean text shows properly. The ID3 Tag Editor shows them mostly okay except the lyrics window will show ???? instead of the Korean letters. Chinese and Japanese characters show fine everywhere in QMP except the lyrics window of the tag editor in which it shows ????.

[Rex_Mundi_Incarnit]

I'm an avid QCD user and it's been awhile since I last tried QMP. I like this build because it has some features that not too long ago I wished were in QCD. I usually don't bother with players that have the built in media library thing but I've used QCD for years and with QMP being another quinnware production, I'm looking forward to making QMP my main player.

One big problem though (well for me). Korean text is shown as squares in the Play Queue and the QuickTrack area. However, in the Media Library the Korean text shows properly. The ID3 Tag Editor shows them mostly okay except the lyrics window will show ???? instead of the Korean letters. Chinese and Japanese characters show fine everywhere in QMP except the lyrics window of the tag editor in which it shows ????.

Try changing the fonts in whatever skin you may be using. Preferences -> skins -> fonts

[lilgoldfish]

^ Thanks! Will try it.
Edit: Thanks for the tip! Changing all the fonts worked fairly well. I can now see the correct Korean letters in the Play Queue and QuickTrack area. However when hovering the cursor over a song in the Play Queue it will show the letters as squares again (only while the cursor is over it). Also question marks are still showing in the lyrics window instead of Asian characters.

[Rex_Mundi_Incarnit]

^ Thanks! Will try it.
Edit: Thanks for the tip! Changing all the fonts worked fairly well. I can now see the correct Korean letters in the Play Queue and QuickTrack area. However when hovering the cursor over a song in the Play Queue it will show the letters as squares again (only while the cursor is over it). Also question marks are still showing in the lyrics window instead of Asian characters.

Yes i saw this as well. I reckon it's a bug. I'll post it in the bugtracker.

[lilgoldfish]

^Thanks! I hope the bug gets worked out. I'm loving QMP so much I don't want to stop using it. ^_^

[Todd The Kiwi]

surely the balloon pop-up notification is a windows thing?

[Kittycalbard]

I'm able to run 119 perfectly now, woohoo!

Running XP SP2: I had to delete my old user data from beta 116 (117/118 crashed for me) since that crashed 119 immediately. I also had to copy msvcr71.dll to my plugins folder, otherwise QMP worked but the wizard would complain the file was missing. Uninstalling/reinstalling didn't help either problem.

[Death Knight]

after reflection, i'm back on winamp.

on QMP only one thing is in lack compared to winamp :

the gain saved in the id3 tags.

maybe i'm fooled, sorry if it is the case.

but the new version is good, i like the wizard :)

[Tokelil]

on QMP only one thing is in lack compared to winamp :

the gain saved in the id3 tags.

maybe i'm fooled, sorry if it is the case.You get set the replaygain plug-in to write the info to the tags.

[Death Knight]

do you mean the check-case "Always write tags after analyzing" ?

but are he information will be recognized by a portable media player like the cowon X5 ?

[Tokelil]

do you mean the check-case "Always write tags after analyzing" ?

but are he information will be recognized by a portable media player like the cowon X5 ?I can't say for sure, since I don't know the player. But QMP writes (and reads) the same tags as f.x. the replaygain program.

[Death Knight]

and what about the winamp's tags ?

(last question)

[Toe]

As of version 5.3, WinAmp uses the ReplayGain standard (http://forums.winamp.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=256207#rg), same thing QMP uses.

As for the Cowon X5, I'm not sure if it supports ReplayGain natively, but you can install RockBox (http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/WhyRockbox) on it, which does support RG. :)

[Death Knight]

ok, thank you for your answer.

now is just lacking the stream recorder (i know, it will be back :)) and it's perfect :).

[Protocol]

Paul. Do you have any news updates on when we may see a final release? :ponder:

Or can we expect a few more builds yet? :paranoid:

[idefiXX]

I think an update would be cool, too.

[Todd The Kiwi]

I'm expecting an update not a final

3 PCs borked out with 119 here... :(

[Protocol]

3 PCs borked out with 119 here... :(
That is strange. I haven't had any problem with B119 running on Vista 32, Vista 64 or XP 32. :ermm:

[Todd The Kiwi]

That is strange. I haven't had any problem with B119 running on Vista 32, Vista 64 or XP 32. don' even go there girlfrien' i do waheva ah won' :hurt:

[Rex_Mundi_Incarnit]

If only the Media Library didnt freeze qmp in linux using wine...rofl :coffee:

[Protocol]

don' even go there girlfrien' i do waheva ah won' :hurt:
Go where? :puzzled:

[Todd The Kiwi]

Go where?vista :cheeky:
that was funny as [to me] when i posted it ha ha

[Protocol]

vista :cheeky:
that was funny as [to me] when i posted it ha ha
I did say that it also worked fine for me on XP. ;)

[zerolllone]

4.51 Rock! Simple but usefull.
Some people got tired of the endless beta version and no stable and final release. Lab rats are we? Hehe.

version 4.51 works. Thank you for that. It's the best. QMP will crash and burn! Woop! Peace.

Watch out for the Final Version of QMP on December 31st, 2010.

[The Big Cheese]

4.51 Rock! Simple but usefull.
Some people got tired of the endless beta version and no stable and final release. Lab rats are we? Hehe.

version 4.51 works. Thank you for that. It's the best. QMP will crash and burn! Woop! Peace.

Watch out for the Final Version of QMP on December 31st, 2010.

umm.....?

[squeege2]

4.51 Rock! Simple but usefull.
Some people got tired of the endless beta version and no stable and final release. Lab rats are we? Hehe.

version 4.51 works. Thank you for that. It's the best. QMP will crash and burn! Woop! Peace.

Watch out for the Final Version of QMP on December 31st, 2010.

OK...was that a dig about our beloved player?

WE" love the continuos adjusting ,malfunctioning, plug-in deleting (and re-aranging), downloading, skinning, reskinning, talking about, talked about, updated, re-updated, downloaded, uploaded, re-downloaded, re-uploaded, unpredictable, (and predictable), responsive, and unresponsive, buggy, and...and... and extremely well loved.....breath.....breath again.....BETA (((qmp)))! Blow it out yer shorts! If ya don't use it! Don't knock it! Thank you...........4.51 works good eh ? What the hell am I using......? OH YA........ The one with the library! Z'all good here!..... Pass the cheese please. :silly:

[Paul]

I was planning on 120 being the release. (Things are looking quite stable, despite a few users with issues I can't reproduce - but they will get worked out over time.)

However the website is not ready. So while that is being implemented, B120 will come out as beta, and I get some more time to make a couple extra plug-ins to fancy things up.

'Till then.

[The Big Cheese]

I was planning on 120 being the release. (Things are looking quite stable, despite a few users with issues I can't reproduce - but they will get worked out over time.)

However the website is not ready. So while that is being implemented, B120 will come out as beta, and I get some more time to make a couple extra plug-ins to fancy things up.

'Till then.

If you've not fixed the album art bug, could you please use whatever code was used before you changed it, because at least it worked sometimes before. Apart from that everything works great, good work!

[Rex_Mundi_Incarnit]

If you've not fixed the album art bug, could you please use whatever code was used before you changed it, because at least it worked sometimes before. Apart from that everything works great, good work!

Umm...no crash here mate and im using qmp under wine in linux :knocked-o

[Todd The Kiwi]

I was planning on 120 being the release. (Things are looking quite stable, despite a few users with issues I can't reproduce - but they will get worked out over time.)read: we will get over it ha ha ha :rolleyes:

[idefiXX]

I was planning on 120 being the release. (Things are looking quite stable, despite a few users with issues I can't reproduce - but they will get worked out over time.)

However the website is not ready. So while that is being implemented, B120 will come out as beta, and I get some more time to make a couple extra plug-ins to fancy things up.

'Till then.
Thanks for the update. :)

[The Big Cheese]

Umm...no crash here mate and im using qmp under wine in linux :knocked-o

:( mine crashes every time I click 'add' in the artwork section.

[squeege2]

:( mine crashes every time I click 'add' in the artwork section.

Same here...unless I pause the player, save the artwork the unpause. Weird....but I love it!

[Todd The Kiwi]

i should probably mention this here.
after installing qmp 119 on my FLASH DRIVE it behaved itself and didn't crash.

[Protocol]

i should probably mention this here.
after installing qmp 119 on my FLASH DRIVE it behaved itself and didn't crash.

Without trying to complete hijack this thread. Do you have a file list of required files needed to run QMP on a flash drive, or do you throw them all on?

[Todd The Kiwi]

i just copy/pasted the entire folder.

i also tried installing it onto the flash drive too, both worked.

[badbite26]

Could it be that too many things are being jammed into too little a space.
I think I started with B115, seemed fairly stable. After that, all other builds have been real crash monkeys. QCD 4.51 (what I use now) was/is soo very stable, with small footprint.
Are new builds for a more sophisticated technical user?

[Todd The Kiwi]

Could it be that too many things are being jammed into too little a space.
I think I started with B115, seemed fairly stable. After that, all other builds have been real crash monkeys. QCD 4.51 (what I use now) was/is soo very stable, with small footprint.
Are new builds for a more sophisticated technical user?ineded, they require more sophisticated crash monkeys.
funding is tight.

[badbite26]

ineded, they require more sophisticated crash monkeys.
funding is tight.

I understand funding is tight. So, why not scale back and simplify the player instead of adding features only a small amount of users would appreciate and seem to make the player more unstable. What's wrong with a simple player, that's easy to use and does not crash every day.

QCD 4.51 has never crashed for me. It's the best palyer I've used.

[idefiXX]

I have to agree with badbite - to a certain extent. I think the ML and all of it's improvements are a great win for QMP.
How about an extension system ? Paul could provide a streamlined version (with the ML, of course) and turn all the cool features he developed over the years into extensions. other users could follow with their own extensions, just like they did it with Mozilla/Firefox...

[Tokelil]

I understand funding is tight. So, why not scale back and simplify the player instead of adding features only a small amount of users would appreciate and seem to make the player more unstable. What's wrong with a simple player, that's easy to use and does not crash every day.

QCD 4.51 has never crashed for me. It's the best palyer I've used.Paul has more or less announced that a 4.52 version will come out at some point. (Don't know if it is still the plan) So you can keep using the 4.5x branch of the player... It won't stop working just because QMP comes out.

I have to agree with badbite - to a certain extent. I think the ML and all of it's improvements are a great win for QMP.
How about an extension system ? Paul could provide a streamlined version (with the ML, of course) and turn all the cool features he developed over the years into extensions. other users could follow with their own extensions, just like they did it with Mozilla/Firefox...Isn't this how it always worked? Almost all the new features (from a user perspective anyway) is in the plug-ins, so you can just disable them. Also there has been a great PDK for years for you to write your own plug-ins.

[idefiXX]

Isn't this how it always worked? Almost all the new features (from a user perspective anyway) is in the plug-ins, so you can just disable them. Also there has been a great PDK for years for you to write your own plug-ins.
Well, personally I don't want to go to the plug-ins section and disable every single thing I don't like. My guess is that the average user doesn't like that either...

[Tokelil]

Well, personally I don't want to go to the plug-ins section and disable every single thing I don't like. My guess is that the average user doesn't like that either...Most users don't want to install plug-ins either, but expect the application to have a competitive amount of features.

[idefiXX]

What is competitive then ?
I don't think QMP should be a video player for example. If users want to play videos - fine, they download the video extension.
But this discussion could go on and on. What badbite26 and me (probably) both want to express is that QMP needs sort of a feature freeze for now. But this is Pauls decision and I understand that implementing new features is much more fun than fixing bugs. ;)

[badbite26]

What is competitive then ?
I don't think QMP should be a video player for example. If users want to play videos - fine, they download the video extension.
But this discussion could go on and on. What badbite26 and me (probably) both want to express is that QMP needs sort of a feature freeze for now. But this is Pauls decision and I understand that implementing new features is much more fun than fixing bugs. ;)

idefiXX, gemutlichkeit!
Yep. Yep. True.True.

Looking forward to version 4.52

[Willow of Oz]

Toke's got my vote.
I don't use the media library a lot, and I can disable it if I want to. I don't, because I want to use :laugh: I just haven't really got around to it.
I don't use the video features either, but I don't have issues with it being able to play videos. It does make sense in the scope of music videos.
I'd like it to talk with other apps like CD burners, taggers and rippers, but I certainly like the fact that I can rip and tag stuff within the player - both of which I tend to do often.
There's not much in the way of new features being added atm it seems to me, and bugs are still being addressed by Paul, so I see it as all fine. Of course, it runs fine for me. I could understand distress from crashing.
In my opinion it probably needs at least one more beta before release.
And to paraphrase Toke et al, software doesn't suffer from bitrot, so if you prefer 4.51 (and the only reason I can assume that would be would be for stability) then you can continue using it until your stability issues are addressed in later releases.

[WHAT?]

http://www.quinnware.com/forum/showpost.php?p=92114&postcount=1

[Kittycalbard]

I'm not sure where I stand in preferences regarding features, since I see positive/negative on both sides based on my own general software usage... I tend to make "barebones" merely mean that I personally inflict horrendous bloat on an app, rather than someone else making it that way for me in advance. :cheeky: (That isn't to say Quintessential is bloated; I was thinking of my current Firefox profile.)

Anyway, maybe it would be possible to have the installer give the user the choice of whether to install all of the plugins or only core functionality? It could be part of the "custom" options along with what directory is used... If one wanted to get fancy, "custom" could let the user choose in detail what specific features (plugins) they wanted to include, rather than all/none.

Alternatively, there could be 2-3 downloads -- one with all the normal plugins, another with only parts linked to core functionality, then perhaps a third with whatever the forum indicates the most popular/useful plugins are.

[acozz]

The installer already allows you to customize which plugins get installed.

[Toe]

Funny how few people seem to notice that, isn't it?

[Rex_Mundi_Incarnit]

They want to be spoon fed :)

[RaiseHell]

First of all, hi to all! :-)

I've used QCD a few years ago, so I'm not completely new to the Quintessential players. Although I really liked QCD I did use Winamp v2.95 over the last years as I had one single issue with QCD that really annoyed me. (FYI: Everytime I started QCD it scanned all the MP3s that where in my playlist, no matter what I set in my preferences. I never knew what I did wrong so eventually I gave up.)

Two days ago I was looking for an alternative, mostly just for fun as I was quite satisfied with good old Winamp. Didn't take long to decide that I want to try out the newest development build of QMP. So here I am. :-)


The first thing I noticed was the polished design. I liked the design of QCD, but it was a bit too colored imho. QMP really masters to combine good looks with clarity and functionality. It's just perfectly balanced I think, so thumbs up for that.

I also want to comment on the discussion regarding QMP being bloated with too many plug-ins.
Quite a lot of people are lazy, and so I am. I don't really like to waste my time with looking for plug-ins and download and install them one by one. I do appreciate the fact that QMP comes with quite a lot of plug-ins out of the box and I think Paul already made the ideal compromise by including many plug-ins which can be unchecked when installing QMP. I mean, honestly, how long does it take to untick the plug-ins we don't need, and how often do we install QMP anyway? And 3.7 MB is perfectly alright for a setup file, too.

In the last two days I've tried a lot of things and different settings and QMP didn't crash a single time. It really seems to be pretty stable, at least for me. (WinXP Pro SP2, AMD Athlon Thunderbird.)

Altogether my first impression of QMP is very good and I guess I won't use Winamp from now on.


There are a few things I want to suggest though:

1) When in small/medium mode, CTRL+L opens the ML. Pressing CTRL+L again does not hide the ML though.

2) With the ML open there's three list boxes I'm using the scroll wheel in: library tree view, library main view and Play Queue. What annoys me is that I always have to click into the corresponding list box before I can use the scroll wheel.
There should be something like OnMouseOver -> SetFocus.

3) Scroll wheel again: scroll speed in the Play Queue is perfect, but in the ML it's always scrolling by just one line at once -> too slow. Please increase the scroll speed for the ML so that it's scrolling at the same speed as the Play Queue.

4) Search box in the ML: there should be a reset function, ideally working in two different ways.
First, when the focus is in the search box, hitting the ESC key empties the box, resetting the filter. Focus should stay in the search box.
Second, let's assume I type in a search term, select the filtered songs and add them to the Play Queue. The focus will not be in the search box anymore but somewhere else. So if I want to reset the search filter I need to click the search box and delete the search terms by hand in order to reset the filter. I suggest to add a little reset button left or right to the search box, or maybe even inside it (e.g. the QuickSearch box in Mozilla Thunderbird works like that).

5) There's a strange behaviour when my cursor is over the volume control and I'm using my scroll wheel. I can decrease the volume using the wheel, but I can only increase it by a few percent, sometimes increasing the volume is not working at all. (It's not really important to me, but why not mention it.)

6) When in medium mode, clicking the EQ button does not open anything. In full mode it does work though (opens the Sound Settings/Equalizer dialog).

7) In some cases QMP does not remember the last player position when switching through the different modes. Example: player window + play queue (medium mode) is in the bottom right corner of my screen -> switching to full mode -> switching back to medium mode -> player + play queue is in the top left corner. So it does not save the position for each mode individually (at least not properly).

There's a few other things I noticed, but I'm unable to recall them now.


Cheers,
Raise

[Willow of Oz]

1) When in small/medium mode, CTRL+L opens the ML. Pressing CTRL+L again does not hide the ML though.

Symmetry is indeed nice. I agree that it should either toggle, or have a shift-ctrl-L for hiding.

2) With the ML open there's three list boxes I'm using the scroll wheel in: library tree view, library main view and Play Queue. What annoys me is that I always have to click into the corresponding list box before I can use the scroll wheel.
There should be something like OnMouseOver -> SetFocus.

Maybe. If so, it should be an option. I don't think I would use it.

3) Scroll wheel again: scroll speed in the Play Queue is perfect, but in the ML it's always scrolling by just one line at once -> too slow. Please increase the scroll speed for the ML so that it's scrolling at the same speed as the Play Queue.

Makes sense

4) Search box in the ML: there should be a reset function, ideally working in two different ways.
First, when the focus is in the search box, hitting the ESC key empties the box, resetting the filter. Focus should stay in the search box.
Second, let's assume I type in a search term, select the filtered songs and add them to the Play Queue. The focus will not be in the search box anymore but somewhere else. So if I want to reset the search filter I need to click the search box and delete the search terms by hand in order to reset the filter. I suggest to add a little reset button left or right to the search box, or maybe even inside it (e.g. the QuickSearch box in Mozilla Thunderbird works like that).

The first idea is good, and I believe it covers your second scenario - reselect the field and whack escape.

[RaiseHell]

The first idea is good, and I believe it covers your second scenario - reselect the field and whack escape.
Well, I was thinking about the second way because just clicking a reset button is faster then clicking the search box and hitting ESC. Maybe there's a better way of doing it, it was just my initial idea. :-)

[Willow of Oz]

Well, I was thinking about the second way because just clicking a reset button is faster then clicking the search box and hitting ESC. Maybe there's a better way of doing it, it was just my initial idea. :-)
not if you need to click to enter the text box.
In which case it's "click to enter, esc to clear" or "click on reset, click to enter"

[RaiseHell]

That's why I think it would be nice to have both ways implemented, as everyone could use it according to their own preference.

Sometimes I'm in the search box, continuously entering different search terms without ever leaving the box until I find what I'm looking for. Sometimes there's so many search terms that hitting ESC to reset it would be nice and faster instead of SHIFT+HOME & hitting DEL to empty the box. In that scenario I want to continue to use the search box in most cases, though.

The second scenario (separate reset button) is useful when I used the search box, filtered something I was looking for and added it to the Play Queue, which means that the focus won't be in the search box any longer. After I added those filtered songs I often want to reset the filter and not search for anything again, so a reset button would be more convenient than a click + ESC key.

Instead of adding a reset button there could be a hot key for resetting the search box maybe?

[Willow of Oz]

Ah, I failed to take into account the filtering.
Yes, in that case I see the use of both 1 and 2 for this item, and agree.

[RaiseHell]

Bugs/suggestions (continued):


8) Play Queue: add a song to the Play Queue -> CTRL+E to open tag editor -> change tags -> the old tag info will still be displayed in the Play Queue.

9) Play Queue: in very few cases when adding songs from the ML, the Play Queue will not display the embedded tag info but the filename.
I just added a complete album with 15 songs, 14 songs showing the correct ID3 tag, only one showing the filename instead. I could not reproduce it with the same files, but I remember that it happened before with a different file.
I used drag & drop for adding the files to the Play Queue.

[Tomy]

For me the player crashes only if i have other programs running in the same time or when i'm copying bigger files from usb. When QMP is only program running it works perfect.

[Rex_Mundi_Incarnit]

b120 is going to be big. I can feel it :P

[Todd The Kiwi]

you start the chant mate =)

[Rex_Mundi_Incarnit]

Whoop whoop whoop. Pweeeeaooor. powowowowow. deng deng deng. kazchingggg! bom bom bom bom bom bom whaaaaaah kapow! :grimreape

[Todd The Kiwi]

ummmbollywolly... Paul man look what you've done to us ha ha

[lynott]

Any news?

[RaiseHell]

I do have an issue with QMP that I also had back with QCD which really bugs me.

When I launch QMP, it's extensively accessing my hard disk for about 20 seconds. First I thought it's something to do with the Media Library, so I disabled the Folder Watching, with no success though.

I now believe that QMP is re-scanning all the MP3s in the playlist, but what's the reason for it?

With Winamp v2.95 I could have thousands of songs in my playlist, but when launching it, it didn't access the hard disk at all (except for the application itself).

Is there a possibility to stop QMP doing that, maybe an option I did overlook?

[Tokelil]

Do you have QMP set to "Determine file length: On play" under Preferences -> Settings -> Loading and Explorer ?

[RaiseHell]

No, it was set to "On load", changed it to "On play" now. I can't tell right now whether that solved my problem (because once QMP was launched it doesn't do that a second time, probably because much of it stays in memory after closing, so I'll have to reboot Windows to test it), but it sounds promising, thanks.

[acozz]

It's probably MusicId. You can disable it by clicking the MusicId button in the ML.

[RaiseHell]

Hm, even with "Determine file length" set to "On play" it's still showing the same behaviour.

Regarding MusicID: That was one of the first things I disabled after installing QMP. Thanks for the tip though.

As a next step I'll unload the Media Library plug-in and see what happens...

[Todd The Kiwi]

"Build 119 August 1, 2007" = 2 1/2 months i'm hanging out for a dev man :ermm:

[Rex_Mundi_Incarnit]

It must be the mother of all dev builds :bandit:

[Todd The Kiwi]

dude you know it.

β120 [if it'll be called that] is going to be pretty serious i reckon aye.

[Protocol]

"Build 119 August 1, 2007" = 2 1/2 months i'm hanging out for a dev man :ermm:
What sort of calendars do you use over there? I make it 3 1/2 months. :rolleyes:

[Toe]

Meh, I'd say a break before the home stretch is more likely. I don't think he's even been on the board much as of late.

[Rex_Mundi_Incarnit]

Aye, the bug tracker is full of new nasties. Hasn't been updated in a while either.

[lynott]

Yeah, some news wold be nice

[Rex_Mundi_Incarnit]

Doo be doo... lah dee dah... hum dee dum...

[atomicross]

Meh, it'll be a Christmas present. :cheeky:

[Todd The Kiwi]

that soon? :rolleyes:

[fromatoz]

next year's :carrot:

[lynott]

Dobbelpost (where's the delete button?)

[lynott]

Hm, silence is definately not gold.............

[zerolllone]

OK...was that a dig about our beloved player?

WE" love the continuos adjusting ,malfunctioning, plug-in deleting (and re-aranging), downloading, skinning, reskinning, talking about, talked about, updated, re-updated, downloaded, uploaded, re-downloaded, re-uploaded, unpredictable, (and predictable), responsive, and unresponsive, buggy, and...and... and extremely well loved.....breath.....breath again.....BETA (((qmp)))! Blow it out yer shorts! If ya don't use it! Don't knock it! Thank you...........4.51 works good eh ? What the hell am I using......? OH YA........ The one with the library! Z'all good here!..... Pass the cheese please. :silly:

And I bet you haven't even finished listening to a single song since beta 1xx from all the tweaking... What's the point?

[Toe]

And I bet you haven't ever visited this forum for any reason besides trolling, zerolllone. What's the point?

[Rex_Mundi_Incarnit]

Beep. Beep. Beep. Beeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeep.

[lynott]

Hm, hate to be a pain in the...... but a few words about what's going on would be nice :beer:

[RaiseHell]

Indeed.

[lynott]

It's been 4 months. Either 120's gonna bee one kick ass dev build, or the whole thing has been loaid to rest.

[Todd The Kiwi]

fingers crossed for arse kicking :biggrin:

[Rex_Mundi_Incarnit]

The official term is "dormant" ha ha

[Rex_Mundi_Incarnit]

Do I detect some sleigh bells in the distance? :nervous:

[idefiXX]

Do I detect some sleigh bells in the distance? :nervous:
What would be the reason for that ?

[Rex_Mundi_Incarnit]

What would be the reason for that ?

Santa is coming to town...but it may be my own wishful thinking :)

[Slisochies]

Santa is coming to town...but it may be my own wishful thinking :)

Wishful thinking, but I hope so too that we'll receive an unexpected Christmas gift.

[Protocol]

Wishful thinking, but I hope so too that we'll receive an unexpected Christmas gift.
What the hell are you guys talking about? What gift? :confused: :ermm: :ponder: :rolleyes:

[badbite26]

What the hell are you guys talking about? What gift? :confused: :ermm: :ponder: :rolleyes:

I think Protocol may know something. Or I'm missing the sarcasm...lol
Has any one heard anything?

[Todd The Kiwi]

almost 5 months since 119, heavy.

[hedge]

almost 5 months since 119, heavy.
There was a full year between the first dev build after 4.51 wasn't there? Still hope there i suppose, just gotta be rather patient :P

[Toe]

My impression was that we'd be seeing dev builds one after another, in a final push to get the last few bugs ironed out for the release version. I'd say Paul's either got a case of burnout, or he's decided to go ahead with implementing some new features before release.

[idefiXX]

I think he is...oh wait - how about stopping the speculation and just listening to some music ? :paranoid: :biggrin:

[Rex_Mundi_Incarnit]

In the end I suppose no one is really waiting for another QCD/QMP release except us. Whereas a new version of winamp or any other major media player is world wide news. This does kinda put the pressure off.

[lynott]

In the end I suppose no one is really waiting for another QCD/QMP release except us. Whereas a new version of winamp or any other major media player is world wide news. This does kinda put the pressure off.

I don't care about the rest of the world. I want my Qmp :)