Development Build 117

[Paul]

I didn't think I would be releasing when I got out of bed this morning, but here I am surprising myself.
Changes in 117:

The Media Library is now built on the SQLite database engine.

This means that the database will have integrity, even if QMP or your whole system crashes. That was the #1 problem with QMP for me, and now it is resolved.

This also means that your current 116 and earlier databases are not supported in 117. You will need to recreate your databases, but hopefully for the last time.

The Media Library plug-in interfaces have been solidified.

There haven't been any published media library plug-ins yet, but any development in progress using the current SDK will not be supported by 117. I am actively creating professional SDK documents to help with QMP plug-in development and will release them asap.

Gracenote Playlist is no longer included.

The Auto-Playlist generation and Intellimix features are not a part of this build. The overhead of running GNPlaylist proved too high, and the implementation was inadequate for a release build. So I had to strike them. Hopefully we can produce a replacement implementation in the future.

Bug Tracker reports were not reviewed for this build.

The Media Library internals were the focus, and many bugs may have been fixed but I did not review the logged bugs for specific fixes. The next build will focus on bug reports as I try to dot all 'i's and cross them 't's.

Aieet, let me know how it goes.
-Paul

[B.E.L.B.H.D.]

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Gracenote Playlist is no longer included.

The Auto-Playlist generation and Intellimix featrues are not a part of this build. The overhead of running GNPlaylist proved too high, and the implementation was inadequate for a release build. So I had to strike them. Hopefully we can produce a replacement implementation in the future.


Sounds good to me. Now how to remove that pesky MusicID...:silly:

[atomicross]

Sounds good to me.
Seconded.

[B.E.L.B.H.D.]

I did one of those edits that everyone hates.:mad: sorry

[Protocol]

Had a brief look, everything seems to be going OK on Vista 32 & 64 and Windows XP SP2. :)

[Todd The Kiwi]

Bug Tracker reports were not reviewed for this build.

The Media Library internals were the focus, and many bugs may have been fixed but I did not review the logged bugs for specific fixes. The next build will focus on bug reports as I try to dot all 'i's and cross them 't's.classic, β116 would be the only build that i haven't contributed any bug reports :P

thanks for the build Paul.

[idefiXX]

Great to have a new build, testing it right now...

[ace2701]

OK, what happened? The media library no longer has a radio button! If I bring up www.shoutcast.com (http://www.shoutcast.com) and pick a radio station, it works perfectly in the playqueue, but that's not what I'm used to. What am I doing wrong?:cry:

[Tokelil]

Bug 1710 (http://www.quinnware.com/forum/bugtracker.php?do=viewbug&bugtracker_bugid=1710) is fixed as promised. :) Thanks.

I wonder, have you made any speed measurements on the new db compared to the old one? (Just curios on how well SQLite is doing)

[Tokelil]

OK, what happened? The media library no longer has a radio button! If I bring up www.shoutcast.com (http://www.shoutcast.com) and pick a radio station, it works perfectly in the playqueue, but that's not what I'm used to. What am I doing wrong?:cry:The radiobutton is there for me. I did a clean install though.

[idefiXX]

Anyone else experiencing problems with folder view ?
I added my music folder and everything was fine, but after restarting QMP once it doesn't show me the folders any longer. The files are still there though...

EDIT : I was wrong, it just takes around 3 minutes or so to show up ^^

[ace2701]

The radiobutton is there for me. I did a clean install though.

Yeah, I did an install to a separate folder (QMP b117). It always worked for me before. I usually keep two versions up at one time. I did find all my .pls files popped up as soon as I went to load them. Paul said that wasn't supposed to happen, but it did. But I NEED A RADIO BUTTON!!

[ace2701]

:scared: Don't tell me this is a W98SE thing :scared:

[Todd The Kiwi]

Don't tell me this is a W98SE thinggive me a p.o.box number and i'll send you a copy of XP pro mate :biggrin:

[lynott]

Behaves real well on vista so far :)

[Protocol]

In the bottom left hand side of the Media Library, there are three grey sorting columns.

Name, Count, Duration.

If I click on them, nothing seems to happen. How are these meant to be used?

[biggman15]

I don't see a Count and Duration, But a Playlists and Removable media...

http://img161.imageshack.us/img161/9881/whatthisqz2.jpg

http://img84.imageshack.us/img84/6995/whatthis2ij1.jpg

It's Expandable... I like that...

But QMP doesn't fully close when I close it... and I have to kill the process...

Edit: Neverming... It was that MusicID Crap...

[biggman15]

:scared: Don't tell me this is a W98SE thing :scared:
I don't know about Windows 98 SE... But it works fine in 2000...

[Paul]

Sounds good to me. Now how to remove that pesky MusicID...:silly:
Just have to remove ML_GNMusicID.dll from the ML plugins folder.

[Paul]

:scared: Don't tell me this is a W98SE thing :scared:
Could be, I didn't test Win98 this time. Let me check...

[Protocol]

I don't see a Count and Duration, But a Playlists and Removable media...

http://img161.imageshack.us/img161/9881/whatthisqz2.jpg

http://img84.imageshack.us/img84/6995/whatthis2ij1.jpg

It's Expandable... I like that...

But QMP doesn't fully close when I close it... and I have to kill the process...

Edit: Neverming... It was that MusicID Crap...
Down the bottom here.

http://img170.imageshack.us/img170/7199/qmpmedialibrarybt3.jpg

[Paul]

Bug 1710 (http://www.quinnware.com/forum/bugtracker.php?do=viewbug&bugtracker_bugid=1710) is fixed as promised. :) Thanks.

I wonder, have you made any speed measurements on the new db compared to the old one? (Just curios on how well SQLite is doing)
I did a lot a of profiling with SQLite and it's tuned quite well. I don't have metrics comparing it to the old DB. But my 'seat of my pants' test tells me it is a fair bit faster, especially with large DBs. The DB I test with is 32000 tracks.

[jkrzok]

My bad; I should have done a clean install. But I'm noticing at least one phantom file in the db. It was tagged and moved yesterday or thereabouts so it would have been in 116's db and yet here it appears in 117's. All that shows for the phantom file is the filename and name, which may have been all it had before I tagged/moved it. The new, good location shows the complete new tag info.

It most definitely was in the new location and properly tagged when 117 was installed and I added my media folder to the ML.

It sure looked like an empty ML when I first launched 117 but then I didn't check.

As for db responsiveness, I'm running a ML of some 103,000 files and I believe things are much more responsive, even on my 5 year old machine.

[Paul]

As for db responsiveness, I'm running a ML of some 103,000 files and I believe things are much more responsive, even on my 5 year old machine.
You have a DB of 103,000 files?! :shocked:
And QMP is running decently? Hope so, that would be a nice benchmark. I know iTunes will cough up a lung with > 20k files.

[jkrzok]

You have a DB of 103,000 files?! :shocked:
And QMP is running decently? Hope so, that would be a nice benchmark. I know iTunes will cough up a lung with > 20k files.

And somehow I still end up listening to Shoutcast... I don't normally go so high but I temporarily have a HD plugged in full of low bit rate old time radio files and decided to include them for kicks.

Mind you I did step away from the PC while Q added them...:beer:

And then I had to have another:beer: Or :beer: :beer:

Who says a slow PC is bad?

[Toe]

So would you say we're done with updates that require you to rebuild your ML from scratch?

[Tokelil]

I did a lot a of profiling with SQLite and it's tuned quite well. I don't have metrics comparing it to the old DB. But my 'seat of my pants' test tells me it is a fair bit faster, especially with large DBs. The DB I test with is 32000 tracks.Sounds nice. :)

I see you have included PLUGIN_API_VERSION_UNICODE as well. I know the PDK is out soon(ish) but Im curious whether that can be used on Win9x?

[Rex_Mundi_Incarnit]

Awesome build! I just have one little skinning request. Why are the columns in the ML where it says name, count, title, track artist a fixed thickness? I want them thinner but skinning them thinner doesn't work. I just don't know if this is a bug or intended...

[Paul]

So would you say we're done with updates that require you to rebuild your ML from scratch?
Yes. <crosses fingers>

[Paul]

I see you have included PLUGIN_API_VERSION_UNICODE as well. I know the PDK is out soon(ish) but Im curious whether that can be used on Win9x?
If you set PLUGIN_API_VERSION_UNICODE then all strings to and from the player are Unicode, even in Win9x.

[Tokelil]

If you set PLUGIN_API_VERSION_UNICODE then all strings to and from the player are Unicode, even in Win9x.Thanks. :) Looking forward for the official release, so we can go on promotion tour ;)

[Protocol]

Thanks. :) Looking forward for the official release, so we can go on promotion tour ;)
Will you be driving the bus? :cool:

[Tokelil]

Will you be driving the bus? :cool:Sounds like a good idea, so we can put the vocal people in the back to shout out the windows... :bulb:
Okay, this is getting off topic.

[The Big Cheese]

Sounds good to me. Now how to remove that pesky MusicID...:silly:

MusicID is a fantastic tool. Especially the button in the tag editor.
QMP is running great so far, it definitely seems faster. Those playlists weren't great anyway, looking forward to the replacement though. My only niggle is that album art hasn't been added to the default skin yet. Maybe next build? You could integrate the visuals properly into full mode at the same time! :cheeky:
Anyway, keep up the good work!

[lillitnn92]

i'm going to have to have another go at it later. i installed in a clean folder, but i had hang ups and then after leaving it open to identify everything for a few hours. when i closed it and went to open it back up, it had erased all that it had identified and had to start over. so i reinstalled 115 until then.

[Todd The Kiwi]

dang, even β117 won't "play" when i hit "enter"
it used to a few builds ago, am i missing something?

[Rex_Mundi_Incarnit]

dang, even β117 won't "play" when i hit "enter"
it used to a few builds ago, am i missing something?

It is here mate. When you select a tune that is.

[Todd The Kiwi]

It is here mate. When you select a tune that is.i used to be able to load some tunes, hit enter and it would start playing.
without selecting anything :depressed

[lynott]

I'm impressed with this build. Tested with a large db (10 000 +), large play que, ripping etc. No problems at all. The only small quirk is the left hand pane in ML that still won't remember it's size.

Good work :)

[Toe]

The only small quirk is the left hand pane in ML that still won't remember it's size.
Yeah, that one reared its ugly head again back in b115. (Some early builds had the same problem.) Hopefully will be fixed soon...

[Willow of Oz]

Hmmm, I think my b117 just vanished on me once when I was adding new music to it. I wasn't overly paying attention, but right clicking and add folder, and I did this about twice, and then I went to look for qmp, which should always be there, and it wasn't. There was an icon in the tray, and when I hovered over it, it vanished. And when I relaunched, I was several albums short in the playlist (which happens if it doesn't shutdown properly and save the current playlist). But it's all a bit vague, so I I'm not sure if I should raise a bug report on that just yet.
No other such occurrences?

[imon9]

build 117 comes is alot of bugfix and it seems solid stable on my xp box now...
gonna love QMP :)

btw, anyone got it running under wine? i'm curious..i tried, but it freezed

[Ragas]

Wooohooo! :grin:
I love it! And in difference to 115 and 116 it's fully working. :silly:
I'm happy. going to take a closer look now.

[jonkofied]

i think its by far the best player around,strange that not much people know it,
gotta love this beta,cant wait for the final version,keep up the good work guys:laugh:

[Tomy]

I have a big problem with the new beta. First the installation stopped for couple of minutes, and when it finally finished every time I start the player after few seconds i get the debug-close dialog. In details it says "AppName: qmplayer.exe AppVer: 5.0.0.117 ModName: ntdll.dll
ModVer: 5.1.2600.2180 Offset: 0003426d". I don't know what is the problem but this way I can't use the QMP. With previous builds I didn't have such problems.

[jawpr]

I have a big problem with the new beta. First the installation stopped for couple of minutes, and when it finally finished every time I start the player after few seconds i get the debug-close dialog. In details it says "AppName: qmplayer.exe AppVer: 5.0.0.117 ModName: ntdll.dll
ModVer: 5.1.2600.2180 Offset: 0003426d". I don't know what is the problem but this way I can't use the QMP. With previous builds I didn't have such problems.


Maybe you got a bad install. Try doing a complete uninstall and then try a fresh reinstall. If it still gives you a problem, try unchecking all non-default plugins and if that works, then add one plugin at a time to determine which one is causing the problem. Any more problems, just repost here and give us as much info about your system as possible.

[lillitnn92]

okay, i've installed 117 again and i still get this problem or is it one? is Music ID supposed forget everything it did and start re-identifying tracks evey time you open it? because that's what's happening.

[lillitnn92]

am i missing something obvious like a retard, is that why nobody has an answer? :)

i noticed just now that not all 3585 tracks are unidentified. it starts out with like 1250ish that were identified, but it now is reprocessing the rest when before work yesterday they had already been processed.

i should add that i don't come one here a lot unless i have issues, so if this is something that had been discussed at length i am sorry.

[jawpr]

am i missing something obvious like a retard, is that why nobody has an answer? :)

i noticed just now that not all 3585 tracks are unidentified. it starts out with like 1250ish that were identified, but it now is reprocessing the rest when before work yesterday they had already been processed.

i should add that i don't come one here a lot unless i have issues, so if this is something that had been discussed at length i am sorry.


I don't use the music ID anymore. I tried it a couple of times and it could not ID 2/3 of my songs and a lot of the ones it did ID were wrong so I unchecked it and quit using it altogether. Paul has made some changes with the library and if I was you, I would just do the same at least until he finishes making the changes he wants to make. I still use the library, just not the musicID.

[Tokelil]

i noticed just now that not all 3585 tracks are unidentified. it starts out with like 1250ish that were identified, but it now is reprocessing the rest when before work yesterday they had already been processed.I have no idea why that happens for you. It works fine for me.

[Toe]

b115 did that to me, but I think it was fixed in b116.

[badbite26]

Once again b116,(for the seciond time) crashed hard. I got a blue screen and had to do a hard shut down. I uninstalled b116 and downloaded b117. I played with it for awhile and now when I open it I get an error message saying that quintessential has encountered a problem and must shut down.
Anyone have any ideas? I'm downloding b117 again to see if it will do this again.

[jawpr]

Once again b116,(for the seciond time) crashed hard. I got a blue screen and had to do a hard shut down. I uninstalled b116 and downloaded b117. I played with it for awhile and now when I open it I get an error message saying that quintessential has encountered a problem and must shut down.
Anyone have any ideas? I'm downloding b117 again to see if it will do this again.

build 117 has never crashed with me. The only thing I could suggest is turn off everything except the essentials and if it works then add one thing at a time until you find the problem.

edit - I would do a complete uninstall and a fresh reinstall.

[Tokelil]

I uninstalled b116 and downloaded b117. I played with it for awhile and now when I open it I get an error message saying that quintessential has encountered a problem and must shut down.
Anyone have any ideas? I'm downloding b117 again to see if it will do this again.I would properly help if you could get a Dr. Watson log of the crash.
Configure Dr.Watson to give crashlogs (http://publib.boulder.ibm.com/infocenter/wasinfo/v4r0/index.jsp?topic=/com.ibm.support.was.doc/html/Crash/1113013.html)

Else try removing the plug-ins and adding them back one at a time until you find the bad one.

[Tokelil]

Memory usage has gone up quite a bit with this release, hasn't it? Running with the default output plug-ins and most other plug-in disabled it's using more than 35 MB. ~2500 songs in playlist, ~5000 in ML.

[idefiXX]

Same here - the ML is terribly slow.

[Paul]

Memory usage has gone up quite a bit with this release, hasn't it? Running with the default output plug-ins and most other plug-in disabled it's using more than 35 MB. ~2500 songs in playlist, ~5000 in ML.
117 uses less ram than any previous build.
But be honest, is it really important these days? 35MB out of 2GB = 1.75%.

[Paul]

Same here - the ML is terribly slow.
Slow, how so?

[idefiXX]

Starting up the program takes a long time, especially the ML (also see bug #1773). I have around 5000 songs.
For me, this matters, because I don't have the fastest computer (1,8 ghz, 512 mb ram). So is there any way of speeding it up ? Maybe a "QMP lite" version, using only what is necessary to play mp3s, streams ?

[Tokelil]

117 uses less ram than any previous build.
But be honest, is it really important these days? 35MB out of 2GB = 1.75%.Hmm Im pretty sure I tested RAM usage with b114, b115 or b116 and had RAM usage (when the player is minimized) half of what I have now.

Whether I can tell the difference in speed is another matter. But memory size is often one of the things mentioned when comparing applications in general, so was just wondering why the apparent jump in memory use. But I guess the ML is to "blame".

Starting up the program takes a long time, especially the ML (also see bug #1773). I have around 5000 songs.
For me, this matters, because I don't have the fastest computer (1,8 ghz, 512 mb ram). So is there any way of speeding it up ? Maybe a "QMP lite" version, using only what is necessary to play mp3s, streams ?Startup time is fine for me. A few seconds I would guess. (Though my PC is a bit faster)
Have you disabled the plug-ins you don't need?

[acozz]

Starting up the program takes a long time, especially the ML (also see bug #1773). I have around 5000 songs.
For me, this matters, because I don't have the fastest computer (1,8 ghz, 512 mb ram). So is there any way of speeding it up ? Maybe a "QMP lite" version, using only what is necessary to play mp3s, streams ?
You can choose to install or not install each plugin in the installer.

[Protocol]

Same here - the ML is terribly slow.
Did you upgrade from a previous version? If so, try deleting the folder:

C:\Program Files\Quintessential Media Player\MediaLibrary\Plugins


Then reinstall.

[idefiXX]

Still experiencing problems. I think I am going to give a detailed description of the problem tomorrow, pretty sure it's a individual problem.
Gn8 averyone :)

[idefiXX]

I was wrong yesterday, the startup problem seems to have gone. :beer:

[WHAT?]

I have a song (wave file) Beatles - In My Life.wav
And...
As it's loaded into qmp 117, It says "Got to get you into my life". Which we all know is another great Beatles' song. When editing the tags it does NOT show this (or even the right name) anywhere. Where would that be coming from???
I usually don't mess around with Tags. I had in the past with QCD and had problems thereafter with all songs that I had done, when running them through FLEX Wave editor. They played fine, but just couldn't edit them. I have found since then that I could convert them to mp3 (if wave), or wave (if origianly MP3), then I could edit them OK. But that's neither here nor there.
Question is... why don't I see "Got to Get You Out Of My Life" anywhere in the Tags, so how can I get rid of that wrong name showing in qmp when it's in the playlist? Well, gee, I mean... How can I change it if I don't see it?

[Paul]

Question is... why don't I see "Got to Get You Out Of My Life" anywhere in the Tags, so how can I get rid of that wrong name showing in qmp when it's in the playlist? Well, gee, I mean... How can I change it if I don't see it?
It was MusicID that identified the track. Guess it got it wrong (I would like to try that track out myself if you could make it available via yousendit.com or similar).
Since WAV files don't have tags using the tag editor won't help. To clear it out right click on the track in the library and select 'update library with tag info' which should clear things out (because again, wav's dont have tags).

[WHAT?]

It was MusicID that identified the track. Guess it got it wrong (I would like to try that track out myself if you could make it available via yousendit.com or similar).
Since WAV files don't have tags using the tag editor won't help. To clear it out right click on the track in the library and select 'update library with tag info' which should clear things out (because again, wav's dont have tags).

Thanks,
See my PM to you.

For All...
I found if I renamed the file Bealtles2 - In My Life, or BeatlesWhatever - In My Life, I will show "BeatlesWhatever - In My Life" in the PL.
But if it is named Beatles - In My Life, it automatically changes (MusicID misreads) it, via what you said, Paul.
But if I add this file through a network connected folder, it reflects only the exact name I give it, even if it's "Beatles - In my Life". Thus not changing it to "Got to get you into my Life". Interesting. Only the local folder has this issue.

[badbite26]

I have an internet radio station file. When I open it and choose a station, I right click and choose open with Quintessential. Quintessential opens but it won't play the stream. I have also tried to move the windows media file into QMP and can't do it. The stations I'm trying to play are all the xfm stations, London, Scotland, Iceland. While trying to get QMP to play these other files it froze and windows shut it down. QMP would not open, got an error message saying windows was shutting it down. restarted computer and now it works. This is really odd to me.

If someone could tell me how to add these stations to a QMP playlist I would appreciate it.
http://www.radiofeeds.co.uk/
I don't want all the stations, If I select a station I would want it to play in QMP
Thanks

[ace2701]

I have an internet radio station file. When I open it and choose a station, I right click and choose open with Quintessential. Quintessential opens but it won't play the stream. I have also tried to move the windows media file into QMP and can't do it. The stations I'm trying to play are all the xfm stations, London, Scotland, Iceland. While trying to get QMP to play these other files it froze and windows shut it down. QMP would not open, got an error message saying windows was shutting it down. restarted computer and now it works. This is really odd to me.

If someone could tell me how to add these stations to a QMP playlist I would appreciate it.
http://www.radiofeeds.co.uk/
I don't want all the stations, If I select a station I would want it to play in QMP
Thanks

Tried the site. Scrolled down to the "MP3 Shoutcast" section, and picked a station. It played fine on b116 (can't use b117). Try this and let me know what happens.


Just tried the .ogg stations. They work too.

[badbite26]

Tried the site. Scrolled down to the "MP3 Shoutcast" section, and picked a station. It played fine on b116 (can't use b117). Try this and let me know what happens.


Just tried the .ogg stations. They work too.

Thanks!

It was hit and miss with the stations. Of course mostly miss with the ones I really want to listen to. And all the bbc's are out! I am using B117. For the stations that do work, how do I add them to a play list? Or, do I have to visit the website each time.

[Tropics]

as soon as you have it playing, save the current playlist. done.

[zerolllone]

I sure hope the Final Release of QMP will arrive before the next Windows. When Vista becomes ancient. 2009 please.

[zerolllone]

I'm sorry. I didn't know that Quinnware was just a successful high school experiment. Darn, 4.51 was so good I mistakenly thought better things were coming.

[Toe]

....

[Rex_Mundi_Incarnit]

erp.

[badbite26]

Will this orban thing work with QMP b117?

http://www.orban.com/plugin/

Still can't get Phantom 105 to work. I hope the aac plug in will work

[Toe]

Why do you need it? We've already got 2 plugins that can play AAC.

[badbite26]

Why do you need it? We've already got 2 plugins that can play AAC.

Downloaded this MP4 Plug-in 2.6b.1 I'm still getting the constant buffering. Goes to 100% then starts over.

I would apprecaite if you could you point me in the right direction.

[ace2701]

Downloaded this MP4 Plug-in 2.6b.1 I'm still getting the constant buffering. Goes to 100% then starts over.

I would apprecaite if you could you point me in the right direction.

Try moving the plugin up to the top of the list.

[badbite26]

Try moving the plugin up to the top of the list.

What list and how do I do it? No I'm not joking! LOL!

[Tokelil]

What list and how do I do it? No I'm not joking! LOL!The plug-in list under Preferences -> Plug-ins -> Input. The plug-ins will be tried in order with the one on top as the first, when a song is played.

[Todd The Kiwi]

at the bottom of the list there are two buttons "move up" & "move down"
highlight the plugin to move first.

edit:woops

[ace2701]

What list and how do I do it? No I'm not joking! LOL!

Todd: oops is right:o.

badbite26: Sorry, my bad.. I should have explained it in more detail.

[badbite26]

The plug-in list under Preferences -> Plug-ins -> Input. The plug-ins will be tried in order with the one on top as the first, when a song is played.

at the bottom of the list there are two buttons "move up" & "move down"
highlight the plugin to move first.

edit:woops

Todd: oops is right:o.

badbite26: Sorry, my bad.. I should have explained it in more detail.



Thanks guys!!! That did it. Phantom 105.2 is loud and clear!!

[badbite26]

Now none of the shoutcast streams will play. Not one. None of the streams I have saved in my favorites will play. Can this be related to moving the Mp4 file up in the list?

After some re arranging I think I have it fixed.

[badbite26]

It seems I have to alter the list depending on what I want to listen to. Does anyone have a solution or an arranged list that works without toggling back and forth?

[Tokelil]

It seems I have to alter the list depending on what I want to listen to. Does anyone have a solution or an arranged list that works without toggling back and forth?This sounds like a plug-in bug in the two plug-ins involved. Apparently they think they can play the files and stream, while they give up to late for other plug-ins to take over.

The is a newer version of the AAC plug-in here:
http://www.quinnware.com/forum/showthread.php?t=6529

[badbite26]

This sounds like a plug-in bug in the two plug-ins involved. Apparently they think they can play the files and stream, while they give up to late for other plug-ins to take over.

The is a newer version of the AAC plug-in here:
http://www.quinnware.com/forum/showthread.php?t=6529

Of course I can't open the file!!
I downloaded this player because it was to play almost all music files. I should just be able to select the stream and hit play. Not go into preferences and re arrange a list or download a new plug in every time I want to listen to something. I think it needs to be worked. The average person will not like all the messing around. I am starting to get tired of it and it's my favorite media player. Paul should not have released it until it until he went through everything to make sure it was in proper working order.

[Tokelil]

Of course I can't open the file!!
I downloaded this player because it was to play almost all music files. I should just be able to select the stream and hit play. Not go into preferences and re arrange a list or download a new plug in every time I want to listen to something. I think it needs to be worked. The average person will not like all the messing around. I am starting to get tired of it and it's my favorite media player. Paul should not have released it until it until he went through everything to make sure it was in proper working order.The AAC plug-in isn't one of his plug-ins. There is nothing he can do if a 3rd party plug-in doesn't behave as it should.

Edit:
If you want to try out one more thing before giving up on it, you could try Pauls BASS input plug-in:
http://www.quinnware.com/forum/showthread.php?t=7027
with the BASS AAC plug-in:
http://www.un4seen.com/filez/2/bass_aac23.zip

(Remember to set it as the first plug-in)

[badbite26]

The AAC plug-in isn't one of his plug-ins. There is nothing he can do if a 3rd party plug-in doesn't behave as it should.

Edit:
If you want to try out one more thing before giving up on it, you could try Pauls BASS input plug-in:
http://www.quinnware.com/forum/showthread.php?t=7027
with the BASS AAC plug-in:
http://www.un4seen.com/filez/2/bass_aac23.zip

(Remember to set it as the first plug-in)

Good point! My frustration got the best of me. I'm not giving up, just resigned to the fact that I need to move items in the list about.

I can't open these files. I get a message saying that windows needs to know what created these files. Maybe because they're zipped, I'm not sure.

Thanks for your patience and help!!

[Tokelil]

Yes both files are zipped, so you need to unzip them and place them all in your QMP\Plug-ins folder.

[badbite26]

Yes both files are zipped, so you need to unzip them and place them all in your QMP\Plug-ins folder.

Downloaded and unzipped the bass plug in. Now nothing will play. Even after I move other plugins to the top. I also am getting an error message, and Windows closes QMP after 2-3 attempts at getting a station to play.

Should I uninstall and reinstall QMP and start from scratch? Or should I uncheck all the other plug ins except the bass plug in.

[Tokelil]

Downloaded and unzipped the bass plug in. Now nothing will play. Even after I move other plugins to the top. I also am getting an error message, and Windows closes QMP after 2-3 attempts at getting a station to play.

Should I uninstall and reinstall QMP and start from scratch? Or should I uncheck all the other plug ins except the bass plug in.What does the error message say?

[badbite26]

What does the error message say?

Quintessential Media Player has encountered a problem and needs to close. Then I get another window that says Quintessential has generated errors and will be shut down by windows. In the data report it gives the error signature that I can't copy and paste.
Okay, I uninstalled and then reinstalled it fine a few hours ago, now nothing will play. I didnot download any plugins or anything else. I got a message saying that the playlist can not be downloaded, once. Only once. I've been playing with this for 30 minutes and nothing is working.
Would appreciate any help

[badbite26]

Still nothing. This player will not play. Everything loads when I select a station it just will not play.
Any help would be appreciated.

could the gracenote thing have anything to do with it?

[Tokelil]

Im not sure what you are trying right now. I assume local files play as they should? So you have problems with two diffent streams or?

[badbite26]

Im not sure what you are trying right now. I assume local files play as they should? So you have problems with two diffent streams or?

The stations in the shoutcast and icecast lists will not play. They load into the play screen where it tells the station and song name , but it won't play.
I feel like an idiot for letting this beat me, so if I sound angry I appologize. It's not at you.

[badbite26]

Now it seems if I engage the QMP Music browser the station will play. This is just getting more odd. I may do another uninstall/reinstall.

[Tokelil]

What input plug-ins and it what order are they? (Post a screenshot if possible) I'll try to reproduce when I get home.

[badbite26]

I uninstalled QMP B117. That's it. I'm done. I'm now using XMPLAY and love it.
Thanks for all your help!!

[WHAT?]

I uninstalled QMP B117. That's it. I'm done. I'm now using XMPLAY and love it.
Thanks for all your help!!My notebook was (is) having all kinds of issues as well with b117.
Mainly just freezes, with a "send / don't send" to MS message. I went back to the non beta version, and it has run all night non-stop in many parties I've hosted, and semi-DJed. This beta version still has it's issues for me big time. But again I don't care so much since it's beta.
The working release is still stable enough that I can add / subtract, search for new songs, get into regedit, and surf the net all at the same time and not worry. Meantime the music cranks away. Just go back to that version(4.51) my man. XMPlay's OK too, but remember "BETA" = "beta" is beta.

[lillitnn92]

ok, i have got one for ya.

this past sunday i returned from my vacation in the OBX (outer banks north carolina to you non USA folk). i jumped on the computer which had been off the whole week we were gone only to find qmp 117 to have been partially uninstalled or something. i swear. there were some files and folders there, but it was quite empty compared to what it should have been. the start up icon was gone and i couldn't even open it up.


:scared:

[WHAT?]

ok, i have got one for ya.

this past sunday i returned from my vacation in the OBX (outer banks north carolina to you non USA folk). i jumped on the computer which had been off the whole week we were gone only to find qmp 117 to have been partially uninstalled or something. i swear. there were some files and folders there, but it was quite empty compared to what it should have been. the start up icon was gone and i couldn't even open it up.


:scared:
Do you suppose this could be part of the hole found in the program(4.51 too) that Paul is working to sure-up? EDIT: and will call it 4.52 . here.. http://www.quinnware.com/forum/showpost.php?p=85460&postcount=76

..and...
http://www.quinnware.com/forum/showpost.php?p=85469&postcount=78
...and...
http://www.quinnware.com/forum/showpost.php?p=85482&postcount=80

[badbite26]

My notebook was (is) having all kinds of issues as well with b117.
Mainly just freezes, with a "send / don't send" to MS message. I went back to the non beta version, and it has run all night non-stop in many parties I've hosted, and semi-DJed. This beta version still has it's issues for me big time. But again I don't care so much since it's beta.
The working release is still stable enough that I can add / subtract, search for new songs, get into regedit, and surf the net all at the same time and not worry. Meantime the music cranks away. Just go back to that version(4.51) my man. XMPlay's OK too, but remember "BETA" = "beta" is beta.

I'm using version 4.51 per your suggestion. It's nice!! Very stable.
I still have xmplay, trying to figure out which one I like better.

[michaelnourse@hotmail.com]

I spent over 100 hours getting my media library right in V 116. Is there any chance I will ever be able to use it in later versions of QMP?

Could I use the library (export or some workaround) in any other players for example WMP or Creative MP? or any others. I would be very grateful for any help. Thanks.

PS all my music is stored in .wav form.

Sorry I think I may have put this in the wrong place. Moved to QMP General Discussion.

[Toe]

BTW, Paul, the download agreement page still mentions that Gracenote Playlist is included. Time to update that part?

[WHAT?]

ok, i have got one for ya.

this past sunday i returned from my vacation in the OBX (outer banks north
:scared:

Were in OB did you go? Thinking of visiting there too.

[Paul]

Hi all, I've been on vacation for the past 3 weeks so now I can address some of issues of late. Haven't been a ghost or ignoring anything on purpose, just chilling in the sun.

[Rex_Mundi_Incarnit]

I hope you had a swell time Paul! While you guys get to have 30C+ im freezing my arse off down under. :cool:

[Protocol]

Welcome back Paul.

And Rex, you need to move up North. :rolleyes:

[Todd The Kiwi]

so are we going to start a β118 chant or what?

ooh shit, where are my maracas...
[is it impossible to say that without a lisp?] :cheeky:

[Protocol]

ooh shit, where are my maracas...
[is it impossible to say that without a lisp?] :cheeky:


Not sure about you... :ponder:

But I can. :rolleyes: