Development Build 114

[Paul]

Just so you know, it's out!

-Paul

[Protocol]

Nice one Paul.

What is this one for:
updated ML - changed 4pane UI to have optional split


EDIT: OK. I am assuming the left column displays your playlists, and the middle column displays the tracks when selecting a playlist. But my middle column doesn't display the details. Only numbers down the left Playlist # column.


Where has Devices gone?

[B.E.L.B.H.D.]

How do I make the grey go away?

edit: Disabled the Gracenot plug-in, ML disappears, hard crash, back to 113.

[Tropics]

damn it overwrote my hotkey plugin and cleared the hotkey list :mad:
i should go for a different settings section in the plugins.ini at least ... :grin:

[Paul]

Disabled the Gracenot plug-in, ML disappears, hard crash, back to 113.
Can you explain what you did here? What did you do to 'disable gracenote'?

[Paul]

I am assuming the left column displays your playlists, and the middle column displays the tracks when selecting a playlist. But my middle column doesn't display the details. Only numbers down the left Playlist # column.
Where has Devices gone?
First: the notion of the 'middle pane' is thouroughly confusing to me. The Media Library only has (up to) 4 sections. The Play Queue can be anywhere on the skin and is not part of the ML so it is not right to consider it the 'right pane'.

Sounds like you just need to drag the left splitter up so you can see all the devices. For the playlists, right click on the tracklist header and select 'set default columns'.

[Protocol]

The middle (right) pane is thoroughly confusing to me also. And still is. :puzzled:

And resetting the default columns does nothing to fix the display of the playlists.

[Paul]

The middle (right) pane is thoroughly confusing to me also. And still is. :puzzled:

And resetting the default columns does nothing to fix the display of the playlists.
Well, you're in a state I cannot picture. A screenshot may help.
The right side of the ML is just a list of tracks, I don't know how to make it simpler.

[Protocol]

See attached.
My tags display correctly everywhere else.

See screenshot here (http://www.sighost.us/members/KarlQuark/Images/qmp_b114_.jpg).

The filename column is the only one displaying. I still cannot see devices no matter how much I pull the divider up or scroll.

[Paul]

See attached.
My tags display correctly everywhere else.

See screenshot here (http://www.sighost.us/members/KarlQuark/Images/qmp_b114_.jpg).

The filename column is the only one displaying. I still cannot see devices no matter how much I pull the divider up or scroll.
On the right side, pull the toolbar that is at the top down (depending on your previous settings, that toolbar may start at the top as a sideeffect).
You can also click the icon on the right side of the toolbar which will close the splitter.

There is no data for the files in your playlists because those files are not in the library it seems. Try right clicking on a playlist and select 'import to ml'.

If you click the collapse button on the lower left, do you see the 'Devices' section then?

[acozz]

I can't make the playlists & devices left pane go away...it'll only shrink to a certain point but won't go collapse.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v333/acozz/ml.jpg

[B.E.L.B.H.D.]

I can't make the playlists & devices left pane go away...it'll only shrink to a certain point but won't go collapse.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v333/acozz/ml.jpg

This is what I was getting and thought that unticking any of the MusicID services along with the CD lookup plug-in might help. Stupid, I know, seeing as how the the CDDB plug-in doesn't have anything to do with the Gracenote playlists. However, this unchecking of the CDDB plug-in is what caused the crash.

[Paul]

However, this unchecking of the CDDB plug-in is what caused the crash.
I'm assuming you unchecked, restarted, then it crashed? Correct?

[B.E.L.B.H.D.]

The 'Views and Devices separated. View and Device tracklists shared.' mode give a nicer restore/collapse button.

[B.E.L.B.H.D.]

I'm assuming you unchecked, restarted, then it crashed? Correct?

Well, know...should I accept the crash as instability caused by disabling the plug-in? If so, that's good.

One more thing, what is the future of Gracenote in this player? I was under the impression that it would be removed upon final release. If this is true, why would these aspects of the player continue to be updated?

Oh yeah, I didn't revert back. That was said in the heat of the moment. :silly:

[Paul]

Well, know...should I accept the crash as instability caused by disabling the plug-in? If so, that's good.

One more thing, what is the future of Gracenote in this player? I was under the impression that it would be removed upon final release. If this is true, why would these aspects of the player continue to be updated?
Unchecking a library plugin should cause no instability since they are not unloaded until restart. Which is why I am puzzled.

I am putting effort forth to keep MusicID in QMP. It is a valuable tool if you choose to use it. Gracenote's auto-playlists I can live without. I have the plan to start an open project to participate with the community to build a better auto-playlist plugin for QMP.

[Protocol]

On the right side, pull the toolbar that is at the top down (depending on your previous settings, that toolbar may start at the top as a sideeffect).
You can also click the icon on the right side of the toolbar which will close the splitter.
Cannot understand that one at all.



There is no data for the files in your playlists because those files are not in the library it seems. Try right clicking on a playlist and select 'import to ml'.
Ohh! This is going to be a problem then. I don't add my complete albums to the media library. I leave them as separate playlists (albums).



If you click the collapse button on the lower left, do you see the 'Devices' section then?
No.

[Paul]

Cannot understand that one at all.
Grab the white bar above the header (right above where 'playlist #' and stuff are) and drag it down.
Ohh! This is going to be a problem then. I don't add my complete albums to the media library. I leave them as separate playlists (albums).
Been like this since build 100. Not sure how to list data in the media library without having the data in the media library.

No.
Guess your device plugin is not running. Are you on Win2k or above?

[jawpr]

Everything seems to be working correctly for me so I don't think the problem lies with QMP. I don't know how you upgraded but I did a complete uninstall of the previous build and then installed the new build.

[Neo]

I don't even think I'm interested in this build since the ML is completely pointless to me. :cheeky:

[jawpr]

I don't even think I'm interested in this build since the ML is completely pointless to me. :cheeky:

You don't have to use the ML if you don't want too. I think Paul fixed some reported errows in build 113 in this build.

[Neo]

You don't have to use the ML if you don't want too. I think Paul fixed some reported errows in build 113 in this build.
I know and that's what makes it great! I was just saying because I thought that was the only change in this build, I have since checked the changelog and realize not so...

[RobbieMc]

The left column of the ML is all one color, not alternating like the right-hand side. Is it supposed to be like this? If you look in the mlskin.ini file you get this:
[ViewPane]
ListViewRowEven=240,240,240
ListViewRowOdd=240,240,240
ListViewRowSelOn=42,255,0
ListViewRowSelOff=28,196,0
ListViewRowError=64,64,64

[ViewTracklist]
ListViewText=60,60,60
ListViewRowEven=240,240,240
ListViewRowOdd=231,231,231
I omitted some of the file to make it easier to read. The ListViewRowOdd value should be 231,231,231 right? That does change it back to normal.

[Toe]

I am putting effort forth to keep MusicID in QMP. It is a valuable tool if you choose to use it. Gracenote's auto-playlists I can live without. I have the plan to start an open project to participate with the community to build a better auto-playlist plugin for QMP. Iiiiinteresting! I've had a couple ideas in mind for replacements pretty much since you first said that the Gracenote stuff wouldn't be permanent, but I thought it might be a bit rude to mention them while the GN stuff was still in.

Specifically, I thought you could use the related artists metadata from last.fm (http://www.audioscrobbler.net/data/webservices/) and/or MusicBrainz (http://musicbrainz.org/) to build something similar to Gracenote's auto-playlists. For that matter, MusicBrainz could replace MusicID too. And wouldn't it be schweet to have a music recommendation system built into QMP?

See also my request for an updated AudioScrobbler/last.fm plugin (http://www.quinnware.com/forum/showthread.php?t=6295). I'd really like to be able to list/play last.fm streams from within QMP much like I already can with Shoutcast & Icecast streams. Amarok has built-in support for that now. LastFMProxy (http://vidar.gimp.org/lastfmproxy/) or myLastFM (http://www.mylastfm.com/)might also be helpful as a reference (and the official client, of course).

[Todd The Kiwi]

yeah, good shit Paul man.
this release eased about 3 issues for me :ditsy:
keep on truckin' mate!

[Rex_Mundi_Incarnit]

A lovely surprise! Thanks! :heart:

[The Big Cheese]

Iiiiinteresting! I've had a couple ideas in mind for replacements pretty much since you first said that the Gracenote stuff wouldn't be permanent, but I thought it might be a bit rude to mention them while the GN stuff was still in.

Specifically, I thought you could use the related artists metadata from last.fm (http://www.audioscrobbler.net/data/webservices/) and/or MusicBrainz (http://musicbrainz.org/) to build something similar to Gracenote's auto-playlists. For that matter, MusicBrainz could replace MusicID too. And wouldn't it be schweet to have a music recommendation system built into QMP?

See also my request for an updated AudioScrobbler/last.fm plugin (http://www.quinnware.com/forum/showthread.php?t=6295). I'd really like to be able to list/play last.fm streams from within QMP much like I already can with Shoutcast & Icecast streams. Amarok has built-in support for that now. LastFMProxy (http://vidar.gimp.org/lastfmproxy/) or myLastFM (http://www.mylastfm.com/)might also be helpful as a reference (and the official client, of course).
Toe, I agree with absolutely everything you just said. That all sounds great! Also, I think I've also mentioned before about the music browser being put to better use. Last.fm of wikipedia artist pages anyone? About the changes, I love the changes to the tag editor. I can kind of see the point in the black in the ml, but it just doesn't go with anything else in the skin. And wait, whats this? Oh no, more big, ugly fonts in the ml! Why, oh why? Actually, as I'm not experiencing any bugs anymore, I think most of the changes I would like to see made are aesthetics. I think a solution to the song info area looking stretched when maximised would be to centre the info. Also, I think the visualizations should have their own 'tab' like the ml or vid window. Erm, one more thing, album art, album art, album art. Come on, pretty much every other player has this, and it would be especially useful as there is nowhere that displays the currently playing album.
Other than these, QMP is easily the best player available, so keep up the good work!

[B.E.L.B.H.D.]

Not sure if this happened in previous builds. Hovering over the media library's left or middle panes gives one of the yellow tooltips. Fine. But if the tooltip is present when Alt+Tabbing to another window, the tooltip remains. I've had it happened twice withing a few minutes today and never before...annoying.


http://img517.imageshack.us/img517/8305/untitled2rr0.th.jpg (http://img517.imageshack.us/my.php?image=untitled2rr0.jpg)

[RobbieMc]

That has been there for a long time. That is similar to the bug I posted dealing with dual-monitor, probably caused by the same thing.

[Toe]

The Big Cheese: Oh yeah, I've always thought the Music Browser would be a hundred times more useful if would display a decent-sized image of the album art. It's a MUCH better solution than trying to imbed a JPEG into an MP3's tag, which should be kept text-only.

[idefiXX]

Not sure if this happened in previous builds. Hovering over the media library's left or middle panes gives one of the yellow tooltips. Fine. But if the tooltip is present when Alt+Tabbing to another window, the tooltip remains. I've had it happened twice withing a few minutes today and never before...annoying.


http://img517.imageshack.us/img517/8305/untitled2rr0.th.jpg (http://img517.imageshack.us/my.php?image=untitled2rr0.jpg)
I experience the same problem. But this is not so urgent I think...
Anyway - thanks for the great build, Paul !

[nobodaddy]

Gracenote's auto-playlists I can live without.

Where the Gracenote auto-playlist thing is now, I'd like to see a plain old straight-ahead folder tree, just right out of Windows Explorer that shows every folder you have.

Personally, I can't think of a reason I'd need an auto-playlist for anything.

Thanks for the new build! :)

[Ragas]

I have some problems with the playlists, they are not fatal but a littlebit annoying.

1. the .m3u ending of the playlist files is shown to me, the reason might be the disabled option in windows for the file endings.
2. the Title, Artist and so on is not shown to me everytime i add a new track sometimes it is, somtimes not, I don't know how this comes and can't surely reproduce it. It might happen every third track. when I totaly reload the playlist everything is shown right.
3. It is a littlebit confusing to click on the rename or the delete button and the playlist will be renamed or deleted. I thought the marked track could be renamed......

But all in all I've waited long to see this nice Playlist Tools in QMP so thank you very much! :silly:

[Willow of Oz]

Personally, I can't think of a reason I'd need an auto-playlist for anything.


I haven't really tried autoplaylists with seriousness, but I can say that the concept really excites me.

[DarkMagess]

How do I make the Gracenote Playlist thing go away?

Also, has the Devices support been getting updates, or should I assume that if my device didn't work when that feature was added then it still doesn't.

-Magess

[Protocol]

Also, has the Devices support been getting updates, or should I assume that if my device didn't work when that feature was added then it still doesn't.

-Magess
I noticed that if I install the latest Windows Media Player 11 Beta 2, device support is broken for my iRiver H10.

[Yes_Its_Me]

that is just M$ trying to eliminate competition the dirty way.

Great build Paul keep up the good work!

PS. yes do try and keep CDDB, if qmp didn't have it i wouldn't have found it in the first place, it is a great feature and is well implemented.

[Negduke]

Must say I am very impressed with this build, keep up the good work you have a big fan here ;)

[DarkMagess]

My Karma doesn't even show up in the devices list anymore. Any ideas why that might be? In previous builds it showed up but doesn't work. Now it's not even there.

Paul mentioned something about a devices plugin, but I don't see one in the plugins list, should I?

[Todd The Kiwi]

50 days and counting... :paranoid:

β115 is going to be awesome i can feel it.

[Yes_Its_Me]

looking forward to it.

...suspense...

[The Big Cheese]

Anybody got any idea what the changes will be?

[traveller]

My only whimper with 114 is the changes to the tag editor. It's probably just because I haven't figured out the right settings yet, but I can't seem to get the results I want when parsing filenames to tags. Never had this problem with earlier builds, and this is something I do quite a bit with downloaded files. Any advice would be appreciated.:heart:

[B.E.L.B.H.D.]

What exactly is the problem?

In the tag editor change the "Load Tag fields with data:" option to "From parsing filenames".

Then click settings to choose/create the template.

I don't use this feature so I am not sure if something is inherently wrong with it or if there is a bug.

[Roj]

Are we EVER going to get those long promised audio infrastructure changes?

[Rex_Mundi_Incarnit]

Are we EVER going to get those long promised audio infrastructure changes?

That's a bitch Roj ;) Anyway a new build would be welcome here. Maybe a little early christmas present? :grin: :heart:

[Paul]

Are we EVER going to get those long promised audio infrastructure changes?
I'm hearing you Roj. But I'm not making it a priority for myself because those audio changes are periferal in my view. The core of the player can handle any audio formats, so it is now the job of input plugins to output the audio quality you are after.

I tried making a Mad mp3 decoder, but the documentation is so lacking that I couldn't produce one that was quality enough to ship. I mean I couldn't even find what any of the settings for the decoder are.

When the framework of the player and the UI are done, I will revisit the plugins.

[Toe]

Which kinda makes me wonder, how far along would you say we are in the current dev build cycle? Have we reached the halfway point yet?

[tropos]

The multiple lyrics selector in the tag editor was useful for translations, esp with non-English songs where one might want to include the original lyrics and their translation to other languages. I can of course paste them one after the other in the single field provided... the only problem then being that secondary lyrics already stored in the tags are now 'out of reach' so to speak. :-)

[Paul]

Hey all, want to let you know what is happening with the next build. Short answer - a lot.

The single biggest issue QMP has right now is that the database is unreliable. Many have lost data after QMP failed to shutdown properly. The next build will have a new DB engine driven by SQLite which is fault tolerant. This will mean that your current database will not be compatible with the next build, but going forward from there we should be out of the database woods.

Also, I decided to do a major refactoring of the core pieces of QMP. This has produced a more robust codebase. While this work has fixed many old bugs, it could have produced many new bugs as well. The next build will help address any left over issues. But overall, a great improvement.

To the question 'have we reached the halfway point yet?', yes - way past. I have in sight the product I am striving for. I can only foresee 1 or 2 more betas before the actual release.

Anway, with all these updates going on it will be a bit longer before the next build is out.

Cheers,
Paul

[idefiXX]

Hey all, want to let you know what is happening with the next build. Short answer - a lot.

The single biggest issue QMP has right now is that the database is unreliable. Many have lost data after QMP failed to shutdown properly. The next build will have a new DB engine driven by SQLite which is fault tolerant. This will mean that your current database will not be compatible with the next build, but going forward from there we should be out of the database woods.

Also, I decided to do a major refactoring of the core pieces of QMP. This has produced a more robust codebase. While this work has fixed many old bugs, it could have produced many new bugs as well. The next build will help address any left over issues. But overall, a great improvement.

To the question 'have we reached the halfway point yet?', yes - way past. I have in sight the product I am striving for. I can only foresee 1 or 2 more betas before the actual release.

Anway, with all these updates going on it will be a bit longer before the next build is out.

Cheers,
Paul
*shudders and a foreshadow of a smile flits over his face*
Thank you Paul. :dead: :silly:

[B.E.L.B.H.D.]

Hopefully the new bugs are minimal.

[Roj]

Anway, with all these updates going on it will be a bit longer before the next build is out.
Thanks ofr the update. :) Where in the roadmap is the audio overhaul?

[Toe]

I can only foresee 1 or 2 more betas before the actual release.
Only one or two more after switching to a new db engine? Really?

Where in the roadmap is the audio overhaul?
I'm guessing not until after the first actual 'release' of QMP. Which might not be all that far off, really.

[Roj]

Only one or two more after switching to a new db engine? Really?
I wasn't going to touch that one. It falls under the heading of "Hail Mary Pass"...

[Todd The Kiwi]

sounds interesting, thanks Paul :bulb:

[Paul]

I wasn't going to touch that one. It falls under the heading of "Hail Mary Pass"...
Naw, it's called implementation encapsulation. Access to the entire DB engine is contained in 1 .cpp file and 1 .h file. The rest of the code doesnt have to know anything has changed.

[Toe]

BTW, Paul, did you ever decide if the released version of QMP will be called 5.0 or 1.0?

[Todd The Kiwi]

shouldn't it be "2" ?

[squeege2]

Thanks for the update!:biggrin:

[Rex_Mundi_Incarnit]

Only 1 or 2 builds left? awww, i was getting used to it! :) Ok just kidding, a nice final build would be nice to go for ;) Thanks for the heads up Paul!

[Yes_Its_Me]

Great job Paul!

looking forward to the new database. It will show even more superiority over stupid crappy winamp.

QMP FTW!

all i need now is a linux port...

[Tokelil]

Great to hear from you Paul. I wish you would provide us with a bit more info a long the way...


About changing to SQLite. Have you measured the speed on this? While the engine is great I have seen some pretty big performance hits on Miranda from the SQLite DB driver.

[idefiXX]

BTW, Paul, did you ever decide if the released version of QMP will be called 5.0 or 1.0?
I would definetly prefer 5.0 because this shows the iTunes and Winamp users out there that this is a fully developed product.

[RobbieMc]

I would definetly prefer 5.0 because this shows the iTunes and Winamp users out there that this is a fully developed product.
I agree.

Paul, there are a few random things I'm curious about. Has the wiki been canceled? If not, is that going to be the main source of documentation for qmp? It would probably be easier because you wouldn't have to write it, or maintain it, and there could be documentation of all the plugins too. Also, is the default skin ever going to get those little bugs fixed (the ones that have been there since b100)? I seem to recall some thread after the release of b100 with dozens of skin suggestions in it. Things like the line in the middle of the volume control slider, the background color for buttons (close, pin, on the windowset file), not matching the rest of the skin, the not quite smooth gradients in the ML, kind of bug me. I love the default skin, and hate to give Matt a hard time about it, but it's so close to being perfect, I just can't stand the tiny inconsistencies.
Well, I guess I'll shutup now. Sorry for changing the topic to something completely irrelevant, those are just things I've been wondering for a long time. And, Paul, now that the finish line is in sight, I must say, excellent work.

[Yes_Its_Me]

i too like the default skin, the not so smooth gradients may be a banding issue with your monitor, not the skin itself, looks fine to me.

[Lich]

Ah, there won't be my precious alpha-blending. Ah, oh, ah.:cry:

[RobbieMc]

i too like the default skin, the not so smooth gradients may be a banding issue with your monitor, not the skin itself, looks fine to me.
Nope, my monitors are fine. If you look closely the gradients behind the "title","Track Artist", etc.. are not completely smooth. Here is what I mean:
http://robbiemcelrath.googlepages.com/Untitled-3.gif

The one on the left is the default one, and the gradient isn't quite smooth, the one on the right is with a modified Brandings.dll file.

[idefiXX]

Nope, my monitors are fine. If you look closely the gradients behind the "title","Track Artist", etc.. are not completely smooth. Here is what I mean:
http://robbiemcelrath.googlepages.com/Untitled-3.gif

The one on the left is the default one, and the gradient isn't quite smooth, the one on the right is with a modified Brandings.dll file.
Sorry man, either my eyes are crap, or it really IS your monitor.
Whether there is a problem with gradients or not, this is one of the most nonrelevant problems then.

[Willow of Oz]

Sorry man, either my eyes are crap, or it really IS your monitor.
Whether there is a problem with gradients or not, this is one of the most nonrelevant problems then.

It's there. I can kinda see it normal, mostly on the first column, but if you go to any paint program and blow it up 400% you should be able to see it pretty easy.

[Rex_Mundi_Incarnit]

It's there. I can kinda see it normal, mostly on the first column, but if you go to any paint program and blow it up 400% you should be able to see it pretty easy.

Why argue about a gradient that is just a little bit rough when the font should be really the thing to be improved. :puzzled:

[Yes_Its_Me]

but i like the font :(

[RobbieMc]

Why argue about a gradient that is just a little bit rough when the font should be really the thing to be improved. :puzzled:
Because I'm a perfectionist ;) (and I don't mind the font)

[Rex_Mundi_Incarnit]

Because I'm a perfectionist ;) (and I don't mind the font)

That doesnt make sense because the font in the gradient is not smooth either if you look really close. It should be more like 'Audio', 'video', 'radio', 'add to library' etc as far as i am concerned. But what am i arguing about this, i dont even use the default skin lol :silly:

[RobbieMc]

That doesnt make sense because the font in the gradient is not smooth either if you look really close. It should be more like 'Audio', 'video', 'radio', 'add to library' etc as far as i am concerned. But what am i arguing about this, i dont even use the default skin lol :silly:

Non-smooth gradients kind of bug me, but I'm fine with non-smooth font (I don't like ClearType, I think it's more difficult to read). Wierd, I know.

[WHAT?]

It's there. I can kinda see it normal, mostly on the first column, but if you go to any paint program and blow it up 400% you should be able to see it pretty easy.
Well, I had to go 600% to notice. But still... Damn-it-man, it bugs me to death!

signed,
Monk

[lynott]

Just curious. Will the implementation of the new database structure allow a more userbased sorting of the ML?

[Yes_Its_Me]

also, has it been decided if gracenote musicid will stay with the final release?

I don't care about the playlist thing but musicid is one of the reasons i started using qmp

[B.E.L.B.H.D.]

I am putting effort forth to keep MusicID in QMP. It is a valuable tool if you choose to use it. Gracenote's auto-playlists I can live without. I have the plan to start an open project to participate with the community to build a better auto-playlist plugin for QMP.

This is what Paul had to say shortly after the latest release.

So you will probably be happy with the results.

[Yes_Its_Me]

This is what Paul had to say shortly after the latest release.

So you will probably be happy with the results.

yeah it would be a great feature to keep in.

[Sheepeh]

Well, I had to go 600% to notice. But still... Damn-it-man, it bugs me to death!

signed,
Monk

Hehe I actually chuckled at that. :silly:

[Katt]

I am putting effort forth to keep MusicID in QMP.
Yes, please keep it! I'm not using the fully automated tagthingy (the one that searches through you ML and ferk things up that you don't want it to touch ^^, I always remove those plugin dlls after installing a new version), but I always use the "From MusicID (AutoTag)"-button when tagging files manually, it's so damn sweet when you've just downloaded a whole album with stupid tags. ^__^

So I could live without those gracenote ML plugins, but NEVER remove the manual autotag! <3

And btw, it could be a good idea to have MusicID switched off by default, so new users don't add files to their ML and it starts changing everything making them cofused or something.

[Yes_Its_Me]

any updates Paul?

[figjam88au]

:devil: any chance of a christmas present named "build 115"?:devil:

[Willow of Oz]

:devil: any chance of a christmas present named "build 115"?:devil:

I'm sure that as Paul madly rushes around trying to get presents and organise stuff for christmas day he'll also manage to finalise work on the next development build.
"Paul, our guests have arrived for our christmas dinner!"
"Not now hon, I've got to get this release out!"

[Yes_Its_Me]

I'm sure that as Paul madly rushes around trying to get presents and organise stuff for christmas day he'll also manage to finalise work on the next development build.
"Paul, our guests have arrived for our christmas dinner!"
"Not now hon, I've got to get this release out!"

LMAO! Comon paul, surprise us!

Merry Christmas everyone! Have a good one! Especially you Paul!

[Todd The Kiwi]

wow 3 months and counting, this one's going to be fun.

[B.E.L.B.H.D.]

BTW, Paul, did you ever decide if the released version of QMP will be called 5.0 or 1.0?

Toe, my sleuthing has turned up this evidence (http://i113.photobucket.com/albums/n227/kj3090/ce1d9c2a.jpg).

[Willow of Oz]

Nice work.

[borut]

Hello!
1. Small errors in genres or bitrate shoutcast. The subject matter is well-organized on the contrary (Z-A). It should byc from and to around (A-Z). Bitrate or genres not option sorting.
2. Please add all plugins compatible in B114 for installer programs (It will allow for the direct service of all formats of files).
3. Add Shoutcast Video Online.
4. To add the bookmark with at the moment played songs. So as button "Music Library, Music Browser, Video Window,"

QMP THE BEST!

[Yes_Its_Me]

The Suspense Is Killing Me!!!

[Protocol]

The single biggest issue QMP has right now is that the database is unreliable. Many have lost data after QMP failed to shutdown properly. The next build will have a new DB engine driven by SQLite which is fault tolerant. This will mean that your current database will not be compatible with the next build, but going forward from there we should be out of the database woods.

Will this mean a major change to the Media Library?

[Toe]

I don't think he means any major user-facing changes. This is more backend-related stuff.

[Rex_Mundi_Incarnit]

I do get the feeling, we as bug testers, are left out a bit in the cold. Bug tracker's offline and no new build in months...

[Toe]

I've kinda wondered if that's part of the reason the bug tracker has been left offline, so people hold off on new bug reports until the new build is out. Or maybe it's the other way around, the next build is being delayed until the bug tracker is fixed... :ponder:

[Todd The Kiwi]

the bug tracker is only [?!] a website thing, the player is more important
at least that's what i reckon anyway.

[Yes_Its_Me]

I'm starting to get a bit concerned with the late arrival of this build, it's been months since the last one, i haven't beta tested something in days, dammit!

[Protocol]

I'm starting to get a bit concerned with the late arrival of this build, it's been months since the last one, i haven't beta tested something in days, dammit!
Well Paul has already explained (http://www.quinnware.com/forum/showpost.php?p=74897&postcount=50) why it will be a bit longer before the next build is out.

Anway, with all these updates going on it will be a bit longer before the next build is out.

Cheers,
Paul

[Yes_Its_Me]

Well Paul has already explained (http://www.quinnware.com/forum/showpost.php?p=74897&postcount=50) why it will be a bit longer before the next build is out.

i know.

[idefiXX]

This is nothing compared to the time we had to wait for the first QMP beta release (one year) - so stay cool ;)

[Yes_Its_Me]

This is nothing compared to the time we had to wait for the first QMP beta release (one year) - so stay cool ;)

or the many million years before the original QCD was released.

[Ragas]

.... hope QMP is going to get to the alpa phase shortly. Cause i want to have a bugfree player again... it must have been jears. But I also don't wanna miss the features of QMP. ;)

[Toe]

You're apparently expecting a build marked 'alpha'? QCD/QMP has never really had a defined alpha/beta phase in its development. The development build cycle is all there is. The build number just keeps going up until Paul feels that the player is stable/complete enough to warrant a release.

[Ragas]

sorry... I mixed up words. I meant that I want to see an Release Candidate.

[Toe]

You won't see any builds marked as RC either. :ditsy: