New Legislation Will Kill Net Radio

[biggman15]

The Electronic Frontier Foundation warned that proposed legislation now making its way through the Senate might put an end to music webcasts that use MP3 or other non-protected streaming formats. Services like Live365, Shoutcast, and smaller radio stations would be affected, and may be forced to use DRM technogy.

http://www.betanews.com/article/EFF_New_Legislation_Will_Kill_Net_Radio/1146163425


I'm a simple Dial up user... So I don't listen to online Radio... Anyway... Seems like bull to me... but Every thing the Music industry and the US gov't does seems like Bull to me... :cheeky:

[Solon]

Would that just be US legislation? Places like Sweden (afaik) don't have legislation like that. That's why The Pirate Bay has such kicked ass legal threat replies; they're virtually immune.

[Rex_Mundi_Incarnit]

Indeed i dont think that would affect the Netherlands either.

[biggman15]

No, But if you use Shoutcast (or listen to anything based in the US) it would affect you anyway....

[Rex_Mundi_Incarnit]

No, But if you use Shoutcast (or listen to anything based in the US) it would affect you anyway....

Wait a minute that's not right. For example DI.fm can be listened to from shoutcast but if shoutcast goes it doesnt mean DI.fm goes. You just go to the website and click on the stream you want to listen to.

[Inthewoods]

My personal opinion is that the title should read "New Legislation Will try and fail to Kill Net Radio.

Legislation that "will kill" net radio has about as much a chance of killing it as the legislation that was supposed to kill file sharing. Just my opinion.

[biggman15]

My personal opinion is that the title should read "New Legislation Will try and fail to Kill Net Radio.

Legislation that "will kill" net radio has about as much a chance of killing it as the legislation that was supposed to kill file sharing. Just my opinion.
Well, I agree...

[jkrzok]

I fear the effect this sort of legislation will have on broadcasters like Radio Paradise. Let's not forget many of these broadcasters are legitimate businesses that will be unable to flout the law.

How exactly does shoutcast work? Do they actually host the streams or are they merely a collection of links to these stations?

[Todd The Kiwi]

jkrzok - you mean flaunt or flout ?

[jkrzok]

I (and my post) stand corrected.

[Todd The Kiwi]

aha i see, you meant flute, sorry to be picky man ;)

[madjo]

how about podcasts? (like twit.tv or podiobooks.com) would they be in jeopardy too?

[acushla]

The Electronic Frontier Foundation warned that proposed legislation now making its way through the Senate might put an end to music webcasts that use MP3 or other non-protected streaming formats. Services like Live365, Shoutcast, and smaller radio stations would be affected, and may be forced to use DRM technology.

http://www.betanews.com/article/EFF_New_Legislation_Will_Kill_Net_Radio/1146163425


I'm a simple Dial up user... So I don't listen to on-line Radio... Anyway... Seems like bull to me... but Every thing the Music industry and the US gov't does seems like Bull to me... :cheeky:It is already being done. Through persuasion and strong arm tactics broadcasts of Sirius Satellite Radio and XM Satellite Radio have already changed the way in which their broadcasts are made available.

The REAL news in that same bill is a section where ANY NEW FORM OF REPRODUCING OR DELIVERING MUSIC must first be OKed by the Electronic Frontier Foundation.

Think about it.

[madjo]

The REAL news in that same bill is a section where ANY NEW FORM OF REPRODUCING OR DELIVERING MUSIC must first be OKed by the Electronic Frontier Foundation.
no
The EFF does no such thing.. the EFF fights for the freedom on the net, not limit it. The EFF has no such authority to approve or disapprove a certain type of distribution of sound.
You probably mean that other organization that also wanted the Broadcast flag, called the FCC.

[rorythedog]

My personal opinion is that the title should read "New Legislation Will try and fail to Kill Net Radio.

Legislation that "will kill" net radio has about as much a chance of killing it as the legislation that was supposed to kill file sharing. Just my opinion.

Agreed. Succinctly put.

[acushla]

Agreed. Succinctly put.Sigh.

Just sitting here very quietly basking in the gentle glow of warmth and 'extending of the olive branch' emanating from this post.

It feels good to smile.

Sigh.:knocked-o

[rorythedog]

Sigh.

Just sitting here very quietly basking in the gentle glow of warmth and 'extending of the olive branch' emanating from this post.

It feels good to smile.

Sigh.:knocked-o

Complacency is :evil:

[Meneldur]

The Electronic Frontier Foundation warned that proposed legislation now making its way through the Senate might put an end to music webcasts that use MP3 or other non-protected streaming formats. Services like Live365, Shoutcast, and smaller radio stations would be affected, and may be forced to use DRM technogy...
Damn...
I'm getting tired of watching this people trying to make money from everything.
It would be great if they stopped inflating my b..ls :shocked:

[acushla]

no
The EFF does no such thing.. the EFF fights for the freedom on the net, not limit it. The EFF has no such authority to approve or disapprove a certain type of distribution of sound.
You probably mean that other organization that also wanted the Broadcast flag, called the FCC.You're correct in as much the EFF fights for Freedom on the net...this headline says it all: 'EFF: New Legislation Will Kill Net Radio.'

My bad.

[kelleychambers]

I am so sick and tired of all this DRM bull$hit! First the try to tell me how I can listen to my own damed music and now their trying to tell me how to listen to internet radio. I found a way around the DRM with my iRiver digital player and I will find a way around the DRM radio situation when and if it rears it's ugly head.

Shame on greedy, self-absorbed, corporate $hits for trying to UnAmericanize the US.

That's my opinion and I'm sticking to it. :reallymad

[lingenfr]

Equally alarming is the current legislation backed by the telcos/cablecos trying to authroize them to charge for premium service. I imagine that many of the netradio/podcast sites either aren't making a profit yet or can't afford the service fees they will have to pay. There is supposed to be an online petition that may be worth googling for.

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=5434633

[acushla]

Psst! Psst! Hey, kid......wanna' buy some radio stock cheap? Look here:

http://money.cnn.com/2006/06/02/technology/satelliteradio/index.htm

[madjo]

Equally alarming is the current legislation backed by the telcos/cablecos trying to authroize them to charge for premium service. I imagine that many of the netradio/podcast sites either aren't making a profit yet or can't afford the service fees they will have to pay. There is supposed to be an online petition that may be worth googling for.

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=5434633
If this comes true, that would mean the end of the internet.
How many ISPs does this planet have?
And how many ISPs want to see the sites pay up that premium?
Google paying an X amount of money to ISP 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6,.... 100, 101...etc.
Can you imagine this ever happening? How long would it take before Google is bled dry? Same with Amazon, Yahoo, MSN, etc.