Winamp Input plug-ins Manager

[shaohao]

Hey, everyone:
This is Shao Hao. I've finished my new input plug-in--"Winamp Input plug-ins Manager".
You can load Winamp's Input plug-ins with QCD to play various audio/video file.

versio 1.70beta

* co-develop with MLO
* UI update
* add multi-track editor.
* and more.


More info here:
http://www.quinnware.com/forum/showthread.php?t=2249

[Spidercrab]

Hey, everyone:
This is Shao Hao. I'm working on my new input plug-in--"Winamp Input plug-ins Manager". I think it will be finished soon. anyone like it?
:)You can load Winamp's Input plug-ins from QCD to play various audio/video file.

I'll post it here for beta testing.
Just wait...
Sounds great. Looking forward to this.

[brian]

Yes, this certainly sounds very interesting - but will it in fact widen the range of formats that QCD can play, or rather act as an alternative to the various individual QCD input plugins we already have?

[shaohao]

I've finished the beta version.
Please download it and have a try.
A lot of audio format you can play (but shorten--.shn cann't be play:(, I'll fix it soon)

[brian]

Shao Hao - sorry, where can the beta be found, please? Many thanks.

[brian]

Sorry, I didn't notice you had attached the file to your original post.

I'm afraid I can't get the manager to work with any Winamp plugins at the moment, but perhaps I'm doing something wrong. Can you suggest one or two plugins with which you have tested it, please? Many thanks.

[shaohao]

Sorry, I didn't notice you had attached the file to your original post.

I'm afraid I can't get the manager to work with any Winamp plugins at the moment, but perhaps I'm doing something wrong. Can you suggest one or two plugins with which you have tested it, please? Many thanks.

in_mp4.dll, in_flac.dll, in_ape.dll, in_la.dll, in_ofr.dll, in_mini.dll and others.

[hedge]

so far i've got in_midi.dll and in_mod.dll to work... but playing an .it mod did screw up once (played fine but when i tried to then play a midi through in_midi the mod would not stop playing... sys specs: dx8.1, win xp home, b67)
in_mp3 wouldn't work however (don't really know y i even bothered trying...), just caused qcd to crash before even playing anything
in_dshow doesn't seem to work either, doesn't even wanna start playing the file... just blocks out the video file entries it tries to play in the playlist
And also... is there any way to get the equalizer to work with the input plugs... winamps input plugs support the eq don't they???

so far the plugins looking really good, and when the bugs have been ironed out shall allow for a much broader range of formats to be played in qcd... which can only be a good thing.

[shaohao]

so far i've got in_midi.dll and in_mod.dll to work... but playing an .it mod did screw up once (played fine but when i tried to then play a midi through in_midi the mod would not stop playing... sys specs: dx8.1, win xp home, b67)
in_mp3 wouldn't work however (don't really know y i even bothered trying...), just caused qcd to crash before even playing anything
in_dshow doesn't seem to work either, doesn't even wanna start playing the file... just blocks out the video file entries it tries to play in the playlist
And also... is there any way to get the equalizer to work with the input plugs... winamps input plugs support the eq don't they???

so far the plugins looking really good, and when the bugs have been ironed out shall allow for a much broader range of formats to be played in qcd... which can only be a good thing.

I've updated the attachment to v0.2!

updated config UI and plug-in core.

[refused]

QCD crashes every time I click configure. :(

[brian]

I wonder if anyone has a handy list of formats which QCD can't currently play using its own plugins, please? I find I'm still struggling to see how I might benefit from the plugin manager, although I like the general idea. I'm taking it that there's no point in using it with formats for which a Winamp plugin exists but which QCD can already play.

[shaohao]

QCD crashes every time I click configure. :(

I think you should use B67.
OK, I'll post a new version which can run under QCD v4.11

I wonder if anyone has a handy list of formats which QCD can't currently play using its own plugins, please? I find I'm still struggling to see how I might benefit from the plugin manager, although I like the general idea. I'm taking it that there's no point in using it with formats for which a Winamp plugin exists but which QCD can already play.

Shorten (SHN), LosslessAudio (LA), OptimFrog (OFR) and etc.

[brian]

Shao Hao - thanks very much. Yes, OptimFrog plays fine with v.0.2 of the manager in Build 67 (and works with the ASIO output plugin!)

refused - I also got the crashes until I created a WA_plugins subfolder and put some .dlls into it.

[refused]

I think you should use B67.

I do, of course.

Thanks Brian, I'll try that.

[shaohao]

Updated to version 0.4

[brian]

I'm taking it that there's no point in using it with formats for which a Winamp plugin exists but which QCD can already play.
I retract this remark - there is a point in the case of Monkey's, since the Winamp plugin is configurable whereas the QCD plugin unfortunately isn't.

[Toe]

So far I haven't been able to get it to work with SNESAmp (http://www.alpha-ii.com/) (more info (http://www.quinnware.com/forum/showthread.php?t=448)). I can get it to pull up the plugin's config screen, but when I try to play a track, I get no sound, and QCD's CPU usage rockets up to around 95% until I hit stop.

Still, keep em coming! Get this stable and I may finally be able to uninstall WinAmp. :D

[shaohao]

So far I haven't been able to get it to work with SNESAmp (http://www.alpha-ii.com/) (more info (http://www.quinnware.com/forum/showthread.php?t=448)). I can get it to pull up the plugin's config screen, but when I try to play a track, I get no sound, and QCD's CPU usage rockets up to around 95% until I hit stop.

Still, keep em coming! Get this stable and I may finally be able to uninstall WinAmp. :D

en...THX for your report. I've fixed the bug. Please download the 0.5beta version.

Please test more plug-ins for it and tell me any unsupported plug-ins.

NOTE: some plug-ins such as in_dshow.dll will not been supported, 'cause it will call winamp's skinnable window.

[Toe]

Yay, it works great now! You're my hero man! :)

[brian]

Yay, it works great now! You're my hero man! :)
Shao Hao certainly is a man of respect.

[jawpr]

Now if he could only find time to fix the time display in Asio ---

[jawpr]

Shao Hao certainly is a man of respect.

now if he could just find time to fix the time display in Asio ---

[shaohao]

updated to v0.6--support equalizer!

now if he could just find time to fix the time display in Asio ---

It's a bug of my asio.dll. I'm planning creating a Winamp Output plug-ins Manager.

Happy new year@quinnware.com

[brian]

It's a bug of my asio.dll. I'm planning creating a Winamp Output plug-ins Manager.
Is the Winamp ASIO plugin still available? It can't be found on the new website.

[hedge]

hmmm i can't seem to get the eq working with in_mp3... anything im missing???
k now its working fine... just took a restart of qcd... of course when it kicked in i had all the eq sliders maxed.... and my hifi nice n loud... (ohhh my ears my ears!!!:))
oh yeah, with in_mp3... and maybe some others... the playback scroller sometimes disappears entirely...
using b67 with winxp and dx 9b if that helps...

[shaohao]

hmmm i can't seem to get the eq working with in_mp3... anything im missing???
k now its working fine... just took a restart of qcd... of course when it kicked in i had all the eq sliders maxed.... and my hifi nice n loud... (ohhh my ears my ears!!!:))
oh yeah, with in_mp3... and maybe some others... the playback scroller sometimes disappears entirely...
using b67 with winxp and dx 9b if that helps...

Maybe the media file is non-seekable.

[GaBMaTrIx]

I'm planning creating a Winamp Output plug-ins Manager.

Wow, great idea Shaohao! You really do an awesome job out there!

BTW, Happy New Year everyone!

P.S.: I'll beta-test your input plugin manager a little more but I tested version 0.6 quickly and had some crash with in_shn.

[hedge]

Maybe the media file is non-seekable.
Nope, works fine using mp3pro and default mp3 plugins, and using winamp...
And if i go to the next track and then back to that track, the playback progress bar returns...

[matty28carter]

I'm planning creating a Winamp Output plug-ins Manager.
would that mean we could use the SQR Soft crossfader in QCD? If so COOL!

[acozz]

Shaohao, maybe you should release this officially so it isn't buried in the forums. Did you rewrite it to work with 4.11?

[shaohao]

Shaohao, maybe you should release this officially so it isn't buried in the forums. Did you rewrite it to work with 4.11?

I'll continue developing this plug-in after finishing alpha plug-in.

[brian]

Shao Hao, many thanks for issuing v.1.0 of the plugins manager. Is there any way of getting it to recognise the Winamp MAD input plugin, I wonder? Unfortunately I still have problems with your QCD version of MAD. Thanks again.

[matty28carter]

recognises winamp mad fine on my system

[brian]

Sorry, I asked the wrong question. I can get the Winamp MAD plugin to appear in the plugin manager config window, but when I try to play a track, nothing happens. So my question to Shao Hao should have been, is there a way of getting the Winamp MAD plugin to work with the plugin manager, please? I've enabled it, of course.

[hedge]

Sorry, I asked the wrong question. I can get the Winamp MAD plugin to appear in the plugin manager config window, but when I try to play a track, nothing happens. So my question to Shao Hao should have been, is there a way of getting the Winamp MAD plugin to work with the plugin manager, please? I've enabled it, of course.
its working fine for me, just installed the plugin manager and the winamp Mad plug and moved it into the input manager folder...

[Toe]

Sorry, I asked the wrong question. I can get the Winamp MAD plugin to appear in the plugin manager config window, but when I try to play a track, nothing happens. So my question to Shao Hao should have been, is there a way of getting the Winamp MAD plugin to work with the plugin manager, please? I've enabled it, of course.
That sounds exactly like the problem I had with in_snes, which was promptly fixed after I posted it. Are you sure you're using the latest version of the input wrapper?

[brian]

That sounds exactly like the problem I had with in_snes, which was promptly fixed after I posted it. Are you sure you're using the latest version of the input wrapper?
If by `input wrapper' you mean the plugin manager, then I'm using v.1.0, as I mentioned above.

Things are a little more complex, I've now discovered. I can get the Winamp MAD plugin to work with mp3 files on my hard drive via the plugin manager, but not with mp3 streams, which is precisely where I get problems with the QCD version of MAD. So it looks as though being able to access the Winamp MAD plugin in QCD gets me nowhere. Ah well! But I'm still keen to find out what Shao Hao thinks.

[matty28carter]

Any news on the winamp output plug-ins plug-in? (i think that makes sense lol!) as the sooner i can get the evil toaster binamp off my computer the better! :silly:

[shaohao]

new beta version.

[brian]

new beta version.

Shao Hao - sorry, where can we find it, please? Many thanks.

[shaohao]

Shao Hao - sorry, where can we find it, please? Many thanks.
The first post of this thread.

[brian]

Ah - a misunderstanding; I thought you had posted a beta of the output plugins manager. How is that progressing, please? Thanks again.

[shaohao]

Ah - a misunderstanding; I thought you had posted a beta of the output plugins manager. How is that progressing, please? Thanks again.
There are some difference between QCD and Winamp on output(playback) plug-in.
Now, I can only make out_sqr.dll works. but not out_ds.dll or out_wave.dll.
Winamp process 576 samples per loop but 1024 or more for QCD--I've no idea about it. Maybe I could (couldn't) solve it later (forever).

[matty28carter]

It only works with the SQR Fader? out_sqr.dll? If so thats good enough for me! thats all i want it for!

[brian]

Shao Hao - perhaps you could rename it and release it as the SQR Fader plugin? Then you would have some happy users, and your work wouldn't be lost.

[matty28carter]

shaohao u are the man!
Hmmm.... well it doesn't actually crossfade lol! Kinda defies the object of haveing it really!

[hedge]

shaohao u are the man!
Hmmm.... well it doesn't actually crossfade lol! Kinda defies the object of haveing it really!
yeah i found that too... changing some of the settings didnt do a thing... and seek times were really slow, visualisations didnt respond very well... ah well im pretty happy with ds crossfading anyway.

[matty28carter]

Bit dissappointed that it doesn't work, maybe shaohao will be able 2 fix it or work out why its not working. :(. Or perhaps the current QCD crossfader could be improved so it works on the same technology as the SQR-Fader, or maybe someone could make 1.

[brian]

Shao Hao, greetings. Would it be possible to develop the plugin manager so that it reports to QCD which filename extensions it supports, please? Please see this thread:

http://www.quinnware.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1450

Many thanks!

[matty28carter]

I get problems with the system messages area with the winamp input managers plug-in. It just stops displaying information on the track (like "mp3 st 160kb/s") it will just go blank. It'll show tool tips in there but the info won't come back untill i either restart QCD or play a track that isn't using the winamp input plug-ins to play it back. It does this all the time.

[krazyd]

I get problems with the system messages area with the winamp input managers plug-in. It just stops displaying information on the track (like "mp3 st 160kb/s") it will just go blank. It'll show tool tips in there but the info won't come back untill i either restart QCD or play a track that isn't using the winamp input plug-ins to play it back. It does this all the time.
Seems to be doing this to me no matter what plugin I'm using...??

[brian]

I believe that at the moment the plugin manager provides basic playback capability for whatever format-specific plugins you install in it, and nothing more; in other words the lack of displayed bitrate information and so on is a development issue rather than a bug. But being able to get the playback is already a big plus!

[matty28carter]

No it does display information just after playing two or three songs it just stops.

[hedge]

No it does display information just after playing two or three songs it just stops.
Yep, i can validate this bug, and its only been introduced in the last few builds, as 1.0 available in the plugins section doesn't suffer from this bug.

[shaohao]

New version is out!

Please see first post of this thread!

[brian]

Nice update, Professor - thanks very much indeed.

[Roj]

Nice update, Professor - thanks very much indeed.
Might I direct attention to this thread and my comments vis a vis Winamp compatibility priority:

http://www.quinnware.com/forum/showthread.php?p=16960#post16960

[Inthewoods]

I'm sorry, but to me this is starting to sound like a broken record. Here we're discussing all the shortcomings of the winamp plugin manager, yet in another thread, it's being recommended to a total newbie who is asking about plugins. Then we wonder why QCD doesn't have more converts.

OK, I'm going to restate my stand on this: The WA plugins manager is a tool which EXPERIENCED (ie not newbie) users can use to apply WA input plugins to QCD until we have "made for QCD", integrated plugins which perform the same functions.

I do not want to see QCD become simply an alternate platform for WA plugins (some of which don't even work all that well in WA!)

I can just hear the newbie comments...." I tried that QCD player, and it's OK, but the Winamp input plugins are supposed to be compatible if I use that "plugin manager plugin"....but it doesn't work right and it's kinda messed up, so I'm sticking with Winamp"

OK....end of rant

[jcmuelle]

Hello,

For some reason the SHN Winamp plugin does not allow my .shn files to play in QCD. The files will load to the playlist, but will not play. Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks,
Jon Mueller

[Edenbeast]

This is an amazing plugin, and has set into stone my personal abandonment of WinAMP (old and busted). The formats I still used WinAMP to play are now supported, so far as I can perceive, perfectly.

Even my good buddy's NotSoFatso NSF plugin (highly recommended to anyone who listens to NSFs, though since I'm praising the Input Manager's handling of it, I won't spam the link) works without a hitch (though the WinAMP playlist shadowing feature it has doesn't work-- understandably so).

Again, great work and thank you on the behalf of WinAMP to QCD converts like myself for the time and effort put forth. ^_^

[mongo51983]

It doesn't work with 64th note, I'm getting no sound out of it, but qmp is playing the file, I'm using Quintessential Media Player Beta Build 105. The file name is in_usf.dll

[acozz]

Is there a reason this plugin is not on the plugins page?

[shaohao]

Is there a reason this plugin is not on the plugins page?

It seems that MLO has given it up.
I wanted to make this project open source. But it was refused by MLO.
:skull:
Maybe I'll write a New version 2 someday....

[Rex_Mundi_Incarnit]

MLO had gotten all depressed we didnt like his media library plugin as far as i can remember... I love to see the WipM (Winamp input plugins Manager) updated tho. Good to hear you are still interested Shao hao :)

[matty28carter]

It seems that MLO has given it up.
I wanted to make this project open source. But it was refused by MLO.
:skull:
Maybe I'll write a New version 2 someday....

To be honest I don't see why you just don't carry on with it. Didn't you write most of the code for it yourself?

I did try and persuade MLO to carry on or at least make some of his plugins available still (which I think he recently has), but he wasn't really interested. Shame really.

[hedge]

To be honest I don't see why you just don't carry on with it. Didn't you write most of the code for it yourself?

Because most of the code isn't all of the code, and he didn't release the manager as open source...

(edit: nevermind, misunderstood the response sorry :) )

[anthfiat]

Another vote from me to get this plug-in back in development. It certainly makes the player richer. Shaohao I hardly ever post in these forums...this is for you. I need this plug-in to work with the itunes plugin from winamp to make QCD fully functional for me. As of right now the itunes plugin from winamp only allows songs purchased from itunes to play through the right channel. I now the winamp plugin works properly because I have tried in winamp and it works like a charm. I'm a big fan of QCD however and would love to see the plugin work on QCD.