Sonique 2 Beta Released

[KR_Dragon]

http://sonique.lycos.com

An awesome player, has some features I like and an awesome inerface... Cant beat multiple color schemes in one skin ;) - Resizable to any size, everything in one window... Animations everywhere... Very nice indeed :D

http://dyncorp.no-ip.com/sq2_screen.jpg

[effika]

I've waited years for that... but I think I found the better player in the meantime. Sonique 2's beta is OK, but I still like the sound quality of QCD.

[brian]

It's not much use to me - it can't play MPCs, and won't connect to my internet radio URLs.

[Rex_Mundi_Incarnit]

looks like at the eve of 2004 there is some though competition between media players, wiil sonique 2 outmatch QCD? And what about winamp 5? Especially looks matter nowadays. I, nonetheless, remain loyal to QCD :)

[blackspawn]

2 years in alpha, probably 1 year in beta (maybe more)... when it finally comes out I'm positive QCD is/will be better than Sonique. Also never did lique Sonique 1, kept crashing Win98, in my experience it was very very buggy.

[air]

QCD is a better mp3 Player

1. QCD
2.Winamp
3.foobar

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mp3s without end, without Download, always up-to-date and free of charge. That is air2mp3
http://www.air2mp3.net

[JEdwardP]

QCD is a better mp3 Player

1. QCD
2.Winamp
3.foobar

My rankings are similar, but I call Foobar # 2 and Winamp (5.x ONLY) # 3.

1by1 has a nice concept behind it, but I won't use it because it can only play MP3.

Sonique seems much too skin-centric for me; that is, it seems the skinnability of it is it's main focus and selling point, which is something that will always scare me away from any media player.

I really couldn't care less about skins, as none seem to suit me, and I tend to avoid glitzy interfaces. This is what attracts me to Foobar, it's all-sound, no-glitz approach. I do think, however, that Paul is genuinely interested in serving both groups of us, the "function-first" users and the "looks cool" users. This effort toward balance is one of the reasons I stay with QCD.

That being said, I have begun to wish QCD had a sort of "plain-looking, skinless" option. If it did, I might never even TRY another player.

[jebster]

looks like at the eve of 2004 there is some though competition between media players, wiil sonique 2 outmatch QCD? And what about winamp 5? Especially looks matter nowadays. I, nonetheless, remain loyal to QCD :)
Winamp 5? There was a Winamp 4? :confused:

[#The fREaK!]

Winamp 2 + Winamp 3 = Winamp 5.

[KR_Dragon]

I dont know if you guys know, but Lycos laid off the original sonique team four years ago.... Then there was about a year of silence until they decided to get someone to finish the job. Since then, there is but only one developer coding this monstrosity. Until December 19, 2003 the player was an alpha, now it is a beta... I see much potential in this player, and its [future] features by far superior to any other player out there, considering what he MML scripting language is capable of. SQ2 has a very long way to go and QCD is still my player of choice. SQ2 is buggy and unstable - that will change in time.

Personally I think winamp is what my stomach feels like after bonging three beers in a row... Extremely bloated. Its a resource hog and a very inefficient player. Sound quality is bad, not forget to mention that hideous bevel. My rankings are as follows currently:

Sound Quality (out of box):
1. Sonique 1.96
2. QCD 4.11
3. Sonique 2
4. I guess foobar can go here considering the positive things I hear
5. Winamp (Any Version)

Looks:
1. Sonique 2
2. QCD 4.11
3. Sonique 1.96
Very far down the list. Winamp (Any Version)

Features (Current):
1. QCD / Sonique2 its tied
2. Winamp

Bottom line is that when SQ2 becomes a full-blown product, it will be far superior to any other player around... Now I am not trying to diss the competition, I love QCD and it still has grip on my file associations. I just see much more potential in SQ2 in the future.

Here are some things I prefer over QCD:
- Skins and remotes can be any color without having to have a bunch of seperate skins just for color.
- Windows (ie playlist/vis) can all be in one window or exernal, ae as many open s you want.
- Blending Options and totally freeform skinning.
- Extreme animations around every corner.
- Much easier to use equalizer, more precise.
- Sound Quality

Some things I prefer in QCD over SQ2:
- Speedy little bugger ;)
- Very Low CPU usage (0 to 10 percent)
- Stability
- Quick Track :D
- Im sure there are others, just cant remember

If any of you are designers or developers, you should at least peek at the language and design capabilities... There are no limits. Make any kind of plug0in you want, and go to town with photoshop and MML. Its like a kid in a candy store messing around with this program! Check out http://www.soniquex.com and see what its all made of ;)

Thanks for your time,

[refused]

Bah. It's nice, if you want your media player to look like a spaceship.

[brian]

1by1 has a nice concept behind it, but I won't use it because it can only play MP3.



It can certainly play MPCs, using the Winamp plugin.

[DeltaGuy]

I guess I'll try out Sonique 1.96 and the new 2 beta...
But if it steals me away from QCD, I'm blaming you guys!!!
I'll try out Winamp5 while I'm at it...
If I'm lucky, It won't crash my computer like all the betas did!!!

[Heigar]

tried it and it ran my cpu at 100% the whole time it was playing and I'm running a P4 2.4 w/1gig of ram ,so I uninstalled it!

[DeltaGuy]

I didn't like Sonique 1.96 at all, it was confusing garbage...
Sonique2 I LOVED!!! but it's still to buggy to use and a resource hog...

[KR_Dragon]

Yeah, thats one of their major problems... Thing is that they just now put it on the beta stage, so now they can get input and fix those problems. Being a resource hog and the memory leak is one of their biggest issues. Especially since the visuals are always running.. Only some skins/remotes stop the visuals completely and thats where a lot of CPU is being used. SQ2 takes about 6-10% CPU when there are no visuals running, and less when minimized.

[JEdwardP]

It can certainly play MPCs, using the Winamp plugin.

Thanks Brian, I'll give it another listen with some plug-ins then.

[JEdwardP]

...Sonique2 I LOVED!!! but it's still to buggy to use and a resource hog...

OK, with all this discussion, I went over to Lycos to download it. I canceled that download, however, upon realizing the dern thing was 7 MB! A media player shouldn't be that large INSTALLED, with all its bells and whistles, much less compressed in its installer.

So, I don't know if it'll ever challenge Quintessential Player, but it seems to already have a jump on Quintessential Bloatware. Add that to all it's focus on visuals and skins, and it would seem to be an 800-pound beast with a lot of tarty make-up smeared on.

I hereby dub it "Bloatique 2" and banish it to the virtual recycle bin without benefit of trial.

[ChiBangin101]

I just downloaded and installed the new beta of Sonique 2. It worked fine, didn't take too long to start up. It just seems too confusing to navigate all the options, operating a musicplayer shouldn't be that weird. I haven't uninstalled it yet but probably will. QCD remains my choice for playing music.

[Heigar]

I found it hard to navigate also seeing I'm not use to it,making a skin to suit my needs would be to much like work with the mantis skinning engine.IMO bmp skinning is a lot easier than learning the mantis scripting.

[matty28carter]

Well... I downloaded winamp 5 installed it then pointed it in the direction of the bin. Sonique 2 i downloaded (7mb!!!) and i have to say i was very dissapointed, it was quick yes but really wierdly laid out and when i played a song in it it sounded like a sloppy fart compared to QCD with the mad plug-in (not using the EQ on either) so sonique 2 was banished to the recycle bin along with Crapamp 5.

[DeltaGuy]

OK, with all this discussion, I went over to Lycos to download it. I canceled that download, however, upon realizing the dern thing was 7 MB! A media player shouldn't be that large INSTALLED, with all its bells and whistles, much less compressed in its installer.
It's still in BETA!!!
By the time that it is a final release, the size will drop dramatically...
It usually always does in all programs...

[Young Twig]

Well... I downloaded winamp 5 installed it then pointed it in the direction of the bin. Sonique 2 i downloaded (7mb!!!) and i have to say i was very dissapointed, it was quick yes but really wierdly laid out and when i played a song in it it sounded like a sloppy fart compared to QCD with the mad plug-in (not using the EQ on either) so sonique 2 was banished to the recycle bin along with Crapamp 5.
iTunes has a 19mb installer. or something like that.

[DeltaGuy]

iTunes has a 19mb installer. or something like that.
That includes QuickTime too, BTW...

[Young Twig]

That includes QuickTime too, BTW...
I know. But there is no lite installer that I know of.

[KR_Dragon]

Ummm, guys. The only reason it is 7MB is because of Windows Media... I guess Microsoft decided to stop the audio and video codecs being seperate they put them both in one package ad that is the majority of the installer package there. If I remember correctly, the first few alphas were only 1.3MB or somewhere around there.

[JEdwardP]

...only reason it is 7MB is because of Windows Media...

I avoid/ignore Windows Media content whenever possible, so that won't alter my negative impression of Sonique. I never even "upgraded" to WMP 9, and won't, until it's forced on me as part of Longhorn. Of course, by then it'll be WMP 10, I suppose.

[Lich]

Just tried S2beta. What I wanna say about it's default skin: it's the ugliest exploitation of most powerful skinning engine I've ever seen.

[sld]

I don't find it the ugliest, but it is definitely very cluttered, and it seems to sacrifice UI layout over showing off its scripting ability.

[drewkeller]

it's just a beta skin. better looking skins can be developed (try blue blitz or opal). but looking at the functionality, WOW!!!

features i like best
-background vis
-console window (no scroller, though?)

the interface has some cool features (these are done in QCD through the non-skinned settings window which might be easier to use)
-resizable windows with scrollers
-detachable/contained windows
-each window has its own window setting/control (on top, minimize, etc) would be nice if there was also a global way to do it

i think QCD has better sound.

looks like if it can't calculate the track time exaclty, it shows "~" in front of the estimated time so you know it's not an exact time

it does have alpha blending, you can see it happen when the icon bar is fully extended and overlaps the playlist control on the default skin or when background vis is enabled.

doesn't seem to have anti-aliasing at the skin edges

i'm not sure what the radial knobs setting does (also can adjust sensitivity)

[KR_Dragon]

it's just a beta skin. better looking skins can be developed (try blue blitz or opal). but looking at the functionality, WOW!!!

features i like best
-background vis
-console window (no scroller, though?)

the interface has some cool features (these are done in QCD through the non-skinned settings window which might be easier to use)
-resizable windows with scrollers
-detachable/contained windows
-each window has its own window setting/control (on top, minimize, etc) would be nice if there was also a global way to do it

i think QCD has better sound.

looks like if it can't calculate the track time exaclty, it shows "~" in front of the estimated time so you know it's not an exact time

it does have alpha blending, you can see it happen when the icon bar is fully extended and overlaps the playlist control on the default skin or when background vis is enabled.

doesn't seem to have anti-aliasing at the skin edges

i'm not sure what the radial knobs setting does (also can adjust sensitivity)


Anti-aliasing would be done in the skinning part... But, a lot of skinners dont do it for some reason. I always anti-alias my skin so its always smooth... Dont know why the skinners dont do it.

SQ2 only scans the file size quickly to determine file size... That can be changed in options of course.

Mantis is the most powerful and robust engine out there right now for a media player, but it hasnt been ultilized to its full potential.. Keep in mind that this project had to be taken under a completely new team (one developer) as lycos decided to fire the old team out of greed and stupidity. Just like Winamp, lets see what happens to WA5.

Also, lich... Ever heard of resizing? Try some remotes before you start trolling something you know nothing about ;)

[drewkeller]

Anti-aliasing would be done in the skinning part... But, a lot of skinners dont do it for some reason. I always anti-alias my skin so its always smooth... Dont know why the skinners dont do it.
the edges of the skin can't be anti-aliased unless the skinner can assume what desktop a user would have and the exact position of the player (in other words, forget it.) it has to be done by the player core, not by a skinner. the best a skinner can do is assume either a light or a dark background and then anti-alias to either light or dark and then specify which background the user should use with that skin. obviously not a very flexible arrangement.

[KR_Dragon]

the edges of the skin can't be anti-aliased unless the skinner can assume what desktop a user would have and the exact position of the player (in other words, forget it.) it has to be done by the player core, not by a skinner. the best a skinner can do is assume either a light or a dark background and then anti-alias to either light or dark and then specify which background the user should use with that skin. obviously not a very flexible arrangement.

True, but there could be a plug-in developed for it.

[Lich]

Also, lich... Ever heard of resizing? Try some remotes before you start trolling something you know nothing about ;)Yes, I know about resizing.
Yes, I've tried remotes.
Yes, I like a lot of them. But now I'm talking about new default skin of S2.

[Toe]

That being said, I have begun to wish QCD had a sort of "plain-looking, skinless" option. If it did, I might never even TRY another player.
While not truly skinless, QCD's Office XP skin pretty much fits that description...

[JEdwardP]

While not truly skinless, QCD's Office XP skin pretty much fits that description...

Yes, so it does. I downloaded it today, tried it out, and will be using it. I have a few minor issues with it, but it does render the plain, simple look I'd begun to crave.

[deeswift]

1by1 has a nice concept behind it, but I won't use it because it can only play MP3.


WRONG. 1by1 uses Winamp plugins and can play any format. Wanna download the most recent version with all plugins included? Click here:

http://www.snoopy.force9.co.uk/sos/1by1%20v1.42%20inc.%20plugins.zip

That's from the forum I moderate, and 1by1 is an awesome piece of software that's almost totally overlooked. It uses the least resources of any player I've seen. Sure, there's no flashy skins, I don't need them, personally, but if you want a very light player that can play back any type of file, grab the download, it's only 1.22 MB. No need to install either, just pop the folder into your program files and create a shortcut in your start menu or on your desktop.

My ranking:

1by1
QCD
Winamp 5
foobar2000

...probably.

[deeswift]

Yes, so it does. I downloaded it today, tried it out, and will be using it. I have a few minor issues with it, but it does render the plain, simple look I'd begun to crave.

You'd love 1by1 then. Looks pretty much like any other windows window and is lighter on your sytem than any player, usually between 1 - 2 MB when minimised.

.

[DeltaGuy]

Yes, so it does. I downloaded it today, tried it out, and will be using it. I have a few minor issues with it, but it does render the plain, simple look I'd begun to crave.
It's a little too large for me...
I think I'll stick with Omega3...
It's quite plain, but still a bit interesting, and has six different skin modes...

[JEdwardP]

WRONG. 1by1 uses Winamp plugins and can play any format...

Yes, I did learn that not long after my original post. And, I frequent the author's website since I use his MP3DirectCut, so I certainly should've known that much earlier.

The one reservation I have left about 1by1, though, is over the use of the MAD input plug-in. It seems the Winamp version is quite old, whereas the QCD version is current.

[deeswift]

Yes, I did learn that not long after my original post. And, I frequent the author's website since I use his MP3DirectCut, so I certainly should've known that much earlier.

The one reservation I have left about 1by1, though, is over the use of the MAD input plug-in. It seems the Winamp version is quite old, whereas the QCD version is current.

You don't have to use MAD though, there are alternatives. I use the MAD plugin and I think it works just fine. Some people I know use the plugin that comes with 1by1 and they seem happy with it.I dunno, I can forgive 1by1but you're right, it's a little old and we could do with an update. I'll email Martin Pesch and mention this.

Happy New Year!

[chicubs]

hey guys, im back from austrailia. Airports were a mess because of the rose bowl. S2 is really nice. The default skin is pretty fugly but i find it easy to use and it does show off some of the skinning features. S2 is not a resource hog for me, but thats because of my super duper pc.

[JEdwardP]

...1by1 uses Winamp plugins and can play any format...

I'm now using it with the Winamp .m4p input plug-in to play iTunes. Since a Speex input plug-in is also available, It'll probably become my default player IF the MAD plug-in is ever updated.

[Rex_Mundi_Incarnit]

Why does everthing need to be updated? The MAD plugin works just fine :) (at least for me)

[Zimz]

I have tryed Sonique 2 and it use too much CPU!!.. i guess it's because of all the effects.. i like effects but what i hate most of all is music that is lagging!!

[JEdwardP]

Why does everthing need to be updated? The MAD plugin works just fine..

It's not an issue of literal need, but rather more of principle. As has already been pointed out, since MAD is open source, the code is easily and freely available. And since MAD itself is infrequently updated, an updated plug-in based on each new version of it doesn't seem like much to ask.

Note that the QCD version of the plug-in IS up-to-date, thanks to shaohao, so it seems to me (admittedly from the perspective of a non-programmer), that someone could've easily updated the Winamp version by now.

In fact, someone may have, and it just hasn't been posted to the Winamp site for some reason.

It could also be that I've simply been spoiled by shaohao's updates for QCD, since not only has he updated the MAD plug-in since I first began to use it, but the Speex plug-in as well (though I am looking forward to his next update of that one ;))

[MadRocketeer]

Sonique is 7 megs because of the WIndows Media thing. No, in contrast to your prejudice, Sonique 2 is not Evil Bill's trojan horse for WMP, Sonique 2 was simply trying to be what it's supposed to be: a player that will play more than just MP3s, and as much as you or anyone wants to hate it, WMAs is a recognized audio compression format which has enough following to qualify for all PC media players to include support for it. Naturally, Sonique 2 answered the call, but unfortunately, it used to be that you slap on the plugin and it plays WMAs for you, but now Bill & co. insists on packaging Windows Media Audio AND WIndows Media Video AND all the other junk into one junk. I remember a thread in Sonique forum where this guy basically dissected the Sonique2 alpha and found that:

Sonique 2 with WMA: 7 megs
Sonique 2 without WMA: 2.6 megs - easily comparable to QCD and most modern players.

So it is not the developer's fault.

As for my experience of Sonique 2, I found it to be blazing fast - faster than Winamp, which prides itself for being fast, even. The interface is sweet, but then again I like sci-fi stuff anyway, and I think Sonique 2 has a lot of potential. It's just hasn't quite filled that potential in its beta stage yet. A lot more is to be done, but I'm sure that with more constructive feedback - and less trigger-happy lyric-waxing - it can get there.

[Hanzo]

I agree with you MadRocketeer. I used Sonique instead of Winamp before I found QCD. However I have not tried the latest version. To me the visual appeal of it is it's strongest point. Their skins are just awesome and the visuals are even better. However the speed and sound quality was the only thing that made me switch to QCD. And in this 2 aspects IMO QCD is the leading media player.

[chicubs]

I new beta was released today. CPU usage is down a lot.

[Rex_Mundi_Incarnit]

I dont like sonique, because its not a "right-clickable" media player. It took me forever to find the "open files" button too. Lastly, QCD has many many more plugins that are way better. Oh yea, and the installation took forever. Nope sonique is not my favourite player and probably even ranks below winamp for me. QCD is of course way on top :p

[Hanzo]

Why does everthing need to be updated? The MAD plugin works just fine :) (at least for me)
We humans (in computer related stuff) have the ever increasing need to improve things so they can be screwed in new undiscovered ways.

[GaBMaTrIx]

We humans (in computer related stuff) have the ever increasing need to improve things so they can be screwed in new undiscovered ways.

As a computer technician and geek, I can only say one comment:

"So true, So true........" (Not that we are proud of it! ;))

[Enfurno]

sonique 2 is the most unreliable piece of software i have ever installed without a doubt, resource hog, crashing left and right, none of the features work.. hey, reminds me alot of the original sonique.. keep up the terrible work sonique team.. =)

[DeltaGuy]

Pst, it's a first beta release...
They still have a year left before they release it...

[Heigar]

sonique 2 is the most unreliable piece of software i have ever installed without a doubt, resource hog, crashing left and right, none of the features work.. hey, reminds me alot of the original sonique.. keep up the terrible work sonique team.. =)
Sonique team? last I heard only one person was coding it,that is why it is taking so long for the official release,even if it was the official release and he trimmed a lot of fat,i still wouldn't use it cuz QCD is my friend.:beer: :D

[Roj]

Pst, it's a first beta release...
They still have a year left before they release it...
I used Sonique back in the day. My whole take on it now is "who cares". It's a footnote to history...

[Tokelil]

last I heard only one person was coding it,Hmmm where have I heard about that... hmmm... agh... I guess... Well... Seems like a good idea!!! I'll support that kind of software!

[J44xm]

I'm one for brand loyalty. The Quinns have created a fantastic player that does just what I want it to, and even if something that might be a bit flashier and even "better" in some regards comes along, I'm sticking with QCD. I will not jump ship and minimize all the work that Paul and Matt have put and still are putting into it and the Web site. They've done right by me and I'll keep doing right by them. (Not that I'm bashing multi-player people. I'm just saying that QCD will remain my primary player until it is no longer feasible for it to be so.)

Thanks, Quinns.

[Slaine]

I just want to shove this discussion up a bit.

I did try QCD a while back but will be getting again to have a look at many aspects of it.

I am the coder over at www.soniquex.com where the home of sonique2 skinning is.

from what i can tell on this thread (yes i have read it all) you guys havn't tried the latest build, definatly check it out, performance improvements (other ways too i will get to that), alot of bugs fixed, installer HALVED in size.

If you check out this thread .. http://forum.sonique.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=7292 .. it has a improved default skin, with improved functionality, fixed skin bugs, and speed improved ten fold (get the release not the remix unless you want to play with the colour schemes), and it also has a neat popup (like MSN messenger) that tells you what is playing when the track changes.

you can also get a Media Libary type thing remote from here ..http://forum.sonique.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=7182

I will be the first one to admit sonique2 has a long way to go, but it will get there one day.

I recommend that this is tried again, i understand that the next build will have the improved default skin err as default hehe :)

[matty28carter]

I've tried the latest beta release. I liked the player and now that its halved in size to download thats good. Only thing is it doesn't (or at least i can't get it to) compare to QCD for (what is the ultimate aspect of why i use QCD) audio quality. The sound from sonique sounds muffled somewhat and not all that clear, don't ask me why i've tried playing with the EQ to see if that makes a difference and it doesn't. I like the default skin just it makes my computer slow(ish) with all its little animations and stuff. Of course all these quirks are likely to be ironed out by the time its released but (for now at least) i'm sticking with QCD as my default player.

[Todd The Kiwi]

I am the coder over at www.soniquex.com (http://www.soniquex.com) where the home of sonique2 skinning is.



eeeek ! who let this guy in ?
someone call security ! ha ha ha ha
just kidding ...

[chicubs]

I just want to shove this discussion up a bit.

I did try QCD a while back but will be getting again to have a look at many aspects of it.

I am the coder over at www.soniquex.com where the home of sonique2 skinning is.

from what i can tell on this thread (yes i have read it all) you guys havn't tried the latest build, definatly check it out, performance improvements (other ways too i will get to that), alot of bugs fixed, installer HALVED in size.

If you check out this thread .. http://forum.sonique.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=7292 .. it has a improved default skin, with improved functionality, fixed skin bugs, and speed improved ten fold (get the release not the remix unless you want to play with the colour schemes), and it also has a neat popup (like MSN messenger) that tells you what is playing when the track changes.

you can also get a Media Libary type thing remote from here ..http://forum.sonique.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=7182

I will be the first one to admit sonique2 has a long way to go, but it will get there one day.

I recommend that this is tried again, i understand that the next build will have the improved default skin err as default hehe :)


*Waves to Slaine*

[Slaine]

eeeek ! who let this guy in ?
someone call security ! ha ha ha ha
just kidding ...

hehe i'll hide ! :)

*Waves to Slaine*

*waves back*

[Mootang]

Awwww, I remember when I first made love to the original sonique player.

It was so swooby and sexeh. It was what got me into using media players other than the windows media player.

I tried Sonique 2 and I can say it's alright (eye candy is nice) but QCD is still my fav thus far performance wise.

[Hanzo]

Hey yo Slaine, I was an adept user of the original Sonique sometime ago, but then switched to QCD for *performance* my ears aren't trained so I can't really tell differences between decoders and stuff, plus I don't have the hardware to make those differences stand out.

I might consider the chance of trying Sonique if the improvements surpass those of B71... get my point? What do you offer? And I don't mean advertising...

[Slaine]

I dont understand what you mean .. what do i offer??

[Mootang]

I dont understand what you mean .. what do i offer??
Oh everything... and so much more.

But that's just a guess.

[Hanzo]

I dont understand what you mean .. what do i offer??
OK, what does the Sonique version you are building offers against QCD build 71 ?

[Slaine]

Im not the coder for sonique im the coder for soniqueX :)

[Rex_Mundi_Incarnit]

Could you tell them guys at the sonique team to add a right-click menu to the player for easy access to all the functions the player has to offer. Also i find a lot of bottons hidden in the default skin (ie not easily spotted). The player sould start to Improve on those areas and perhaps it ends up offering more than QCD has to offer. ;)

[Slaine]

The right click menu has been in sonique2 since like early alpha days, you will find it by right clicking :confused:

What are you having problems finding on the default skin? to me everything seems there ready?!

[Rex_Mundi_Incarnit]

Okay, i was wrong about the right-clicking, even though there does not seem to be a link to the files in the playlist (a sort of quicktrack if you know what i mean). Nevertheless, i must insist that the default skin is rather confusing. I clearly see the play / stop / next / previous buttons, but why do the other buttons have to be so small? Especially with a large desktop resolution, they simply become invisible. Also i dont like how the settings window is integrated in the player. It's all just too confusing for me. As for QCD, I love the layout of the settings/preferences window and its default skin design. But, in the end i guess its all a matter of taste.