So...you want to discuss 'law'

[acushla]

A Canadian was sentenced yesterday to 3 1/2 years in prison for being one of the administrators of a global pornography ring that distributed images that included acts of incest, bestiality and rape.

Provincial court Judge Shelagh Creagh called the case unprecedented both in terms of the volume of material Mr. Treleaven was involved in distributing and the horror of the images.

"I have no doubt that you have shown yourself to be a danger to society," she told Mr. Treleaven, a grey-haired, bespectacled, 49-year-old who hung his head during most of the proceedings.

"I am tempted to impose a higher sentence," said Judge Creagh.

Meanwhile in the USA last week, 3 men were sentenced to 5 years in prison and a $250,000 fine.

Their crime?

Downloading music.

Seems right. (SARC)

Canadian story: http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20060317.wchildporn0319/BNStory/National/home

[BALTY]

Is this part of that kiddyvid forum site on the news lately?
How sick some people must be??? !!!
I hope know one here in this forum would ever be so sick! Not that I'm saying anyone would try posting garbage here. That would never happen I'm sure. Rather I'm mean, anywhere else even!

But think about this sickness though. Of all the things to be hooked on, why do children have to be part of sick things... and to have others who welcome it into their lives..... just as SICK!
I think what will ultimately damn me to hell is when ("if" I mean) I get my hands on that someone abducting and/or raping a kid. To do so to another adult is bad enough.:dead:
As you know I not so much a real pacifist. So that said, "mess with my family, I'll have hell to pay" .. probably! after I get done with the perp!

Now since I haven't been close to anyone who has been a victim of this, I hope that this is just a threat and not a promise!!!!!

[madjo]

well downloading music is a heinous crime, and should actually be punishable by death.[/sarcasm]
(In NL, downloading music is perfectly legal, it is the uploading that is the illegal kind)

well, you can't really compare Canada with the US. that would be like apples and oranges.. how much prison-time does a child-molester in the US get?

[BALTY]

well, you can't really compare Canada with the US. that would be like apples and oranges.. how much prison-time does a child-molester in the US get?
DEATH if it's wAs my child!:grimreape

[acushla]

.. how much prison-time does a child-molester in the US get?Excellent question.

[jkrzok]

well, you can't really compare Canada with the US. that would be like apples and oranges.. how much prison-time does a child-molester in the US get?

The time served is almost irrelevant. The abuse of all types inflicted on child abusers in US prisons is far worse than any of Dante's circles. From what I hear (an Attica prison guard friend of mine) child abusers are never safe from either other inmates or guards and have no friends. Protective custody while availalble, is meaningless when the door's left unlocked.

[acushla]

DEATH if it's wAs my child!:grimreapeDeath is too easy.

I personally favour a punishment which originated in Europe during what I can only imagine as 'the Dark Ages'.

The following discourse contains strong images and may be disturbing to some readers. Viewer discretion is strongly advised.

You chain a prisoner to the dungeon wall and place a type of cast iron 'mask' with a criss cross pattern leaving about one inch of open space between each bar. In the middle of the cage is a sliding door with a handle at the top. On the other side of the door are 6 or 7 (number really doesn't matter;) ) hungry rats. You leave everything in place for about 5 days (number really doesn't matter;) ) then you pull the gate up. I will leave it to your imagination as to what happens next.

Oh for the good old Dark Ages...when men knew how to really punish.:) :ponder:

[acushla]

The time served is almost irrelevant. The abuse of all types inflicted on child abusers in US prisons is far worse than any of Dante's circles. From what I hear (an Attica prison guard friend of mine) child abusers are never safe from either other inmates or guards and have no friends. Protective custody while available, is meaningless when the door's left unlocked.
Good point...I forgot about that.

I am curious...(and I am NOT being smart:) ), how does this behaviour of one human to another in America fit in with your view of 'law' and 'rights'.

If you know what I mean.

I guess what I'm asking is...do you 'cheer' or do you 'boo'?

[jkrzok]

Good point...I forgot about that.

I am curious...(and I am NOT being smart:) ), how does this behaviour of one human to another in America fit in with your view of 'law' and 'rights'.

If you know what I mean.

I guess what I'm asking is...do you 'cheer' or do you 'boo'?

Oh I cheer alright. The animal in me loves the notion of some kiddie-f****r getting it up the ass from some aids-infected animal from the nightmare landscape inspired by Quentin Tarantino and Clive Barker. But that's why we have laws in the first place; to control our animal impulses.

Does anyone remember the "false memories" implanted into supposed victims of child abuse? Where it was determined that the leading questions of the so-called experts planted false memories of child abuse into children?

Now imagine that you are the one falsely accused. Explain that to your wife and children. Now imagine that you've been convicted and now you're facing your first night alone with the cell mate with the raging hard-on for kiddie-f****rs.

I may not like the law on an emotional level but I'm very glad it's there. there are some acts so heinous that they can never be reversed and should never be imposed. What if you're the one on the receiving end? The whole point of these laws is not to protect the killers and the kiddie lovers; it is there to protect those accused who are innocent.

I'm not a Christian but it seems we could be well served to be guided by "Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye have done it unto one of the least of these my brethren, ye have done it unto me." -Matthew 25:40

[acushla]

The whole point of these laws is not to protect the killers and the kiddie lovers; it is there to protect those accused who are innocent.

...and lightening struck!!!

This could well be one of the most important concepts I have ever seen...and learned.

...and to think I very nearly didn't post because I thought you would think I was just being 'smart'.

Thank you.:)

[Willow of Oz]

Here's a thought for those condemning pedophiles and child molestors:
Watch Desperate Housewives.

[BALTY]

Does anyone remember the "false memories" implanted into supposed victims of child abuse? Where it was determined that the leading questions of the so-called experts planted false memories of child abuse into children?


Yes, this is set in place for law, and justice for all parties when all things being equal! In America you ARE innocent until proven differently (supposedly). I agree with that as a law-biding citizen.
I'm just saying if I knew for sure of someone who did these hayness crimes to me and mine.... I wouldn't wait around (personally) for any torture techniques, or court hearings.
So, I guess in short... If you want to ruin my life along with yours, then mess with my family! I'll end up in prison, and you'll end up dead!
Hypothetically of course!:ninja: