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Willow of Oz
02-21-2006, 07:55 AM
In Australia, NSW to introduce majority jury verdicts:
http://www.smh.com.au/news/National/NSW-to-introduce-majority-jury-verdicts/2005/11/09/1131407682924.html
Not everyone on the jury thinks you just murdered that little girl? But most did, so too bad; you're guilty.
Rex_Mundi_Incarnit
02-21-2006, 08:04 AM
In the Netherlands we'll never accept that form of justice system...
acushla
02-21-2006, 08:21 AM
In Australia, NSW to introduce majority jury verdicts:
http://www.smh.com.au/news/National/NSW-to-introduce-majority-jury-verdicts/2005/11/09/1131407682924.html
Not everyone on the jury thinks you just murdered that little girl? But most did, so too bad; you're guilty.
Hmmm...I actually think this is a good idea.
Should I be worried?
Willow of Oz
02-21-2006, 09:34 AM
In the Netherlands we'll never accept that form of justice system...
http://www.smh.com/news/NetherlandsToIntroduceMajorityJury.html (http://www.smh.com.au/news/National/NSW-to-introduce-majority-jury-verdicts/2005/11/09/1131407682924.html)
Rex_Mundi_Incarnit
02-21-2006, 03:57 PM
Yes very funny Willow. :) If any one is interested in the Dutch judiciary system read about it here (http://www.rechtspraak.nl/information+in+english)
In Australia, NSW to introduce majority jury verdicts:
http://www.smh.com.au/news/National/NSW-to-introduce-majority-jury-verdicts/2005/11/09/1131407682924.html
Not everyone on the jury thinks you just murdered that little girl? But most did, so too bad; you're guilty.
That garbage never will (and never should) see the light of day in Canada. We don't do the mob mentality (well, most of us don't).
acushla
02-24-2006, 05:24 PM
In Australia, NSW to introduce majority jury verdicts:
http://www.smh.com.au/news/National/NSW-to-introduce-majority-jury-verdicts/2005/11/09/1131407682924.html
Not everyone on the jury thinks you just murdered that little girl? But most did, so too bad; you're guilty.
I suppose this is an attempt to take a flawed process and correct it.
Instead, all you've really done is replace one flawed process with another.
Ah...if only life was perfect.:disappoin
I suppose this is an attempt to take a flawed process and correct it.
Instead, all you've really done is replace one flawed process with another.
Ah...if only life was perfect.:disappoin
No - it's far worse. Now there's a process that will allow even more of a margin for error.
acushla
02-24-2006, 06:15 PM
No - it's far worse. Now there's a process that will allow even more of a margin for error.I'm not certain how there can be a greater/lesser degree for a 'margin of error' that involves two choices...innocent/guilty.
I'm not certain how there can be a greater/lesser degree for a 'margin of error' that involves two choices...innocent/guilty.
Pretty straightforward, actually. If all don't agree, the jury is hung and keeps going back until the decision is unanimous. If it's majority rule, all it takes is one vote over the line and everyone is home for pizza. Expediency rules.
acushla
02-24-2006, 07:58 PM
Pretty straightforward, actually. If all don't agree, the jury is hung and keeps going back until the decision is unanimous. If it's majority rule, all it takes is one vote over the line and everyone is home for pizza. Expediency rules.My brain is sore today (serious)...I will have to think more about this at some later date.
Given your track record though, I suspect I will learn something.:)
Willow of Oz
02-25-2006, 01:20 PM
Pretty straightforward, actually. If all don't agree, the jury is hung and keeps going back until the decision is unanimous. If it's majority rule, all it takes is one vote over the line and everyone is home for pizza. Expediency rules.
That is indeed pretty much the situation. That and 'one bleeding heart who doesn't feel they can necessarily know he's guilty and therefore convict him'.
Some people aren't convinced that it's better a thousand guilty men go free than one innocent person go to jail. And arguably some get a little caught up on the one and hence never send anyone to jail.
A good movie on the subject is "12 Angry Men".
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