RIAA Claims copying music CD's to Ipod is "unlawful"

[matty28carter]

US record-label body the RIAA and movie-industry moguls at the MPAA are attempting to argue that copying a CD to a computer for carrying on an iPod does not, and has never, constituted fair use.

A report from the Electronic Frontier Foundation says 14 organisations, including the two mentioned, have submitted a filing as part of the Digital Millennium Copyright Act's regular review process of exemptions to provisions against tampering with technological protection measures.

This means that, in essence, all rights to copy anything are held by the copyright owner. Those rights can be sold or assigned, which is why a record label can reproduce and distribute a given musician's songs. Since copyright holders haven't granted specific permission to make a copy of a song, you aren't allowed to, by the letter of the law.

This is just getting stupid now. Someone please give the RIAA a slap.

[rorythedog]

This is just getting stupid now. Someone please give the RIAA a slap.


I'm on it! :pirate:

[Rex_Mundi_Incarnit]

I hope a headshot will suffice ;) :skull:

[Lich]

Sorry for my English, but... F*ck RIAA.

[acushla]

Oh...so you think that's bad...as I mentioned in another thread, the RIAA have a bill before Congress that would prohibit any technological advancement or change in the way music is delivered or reproduced unless prior approval is given by the RIAA.

[Roj]

This is just getting stupid now. Someone please give the RIAA a slap.
Saw that on CD Freaks. My reply is on record there as well. They can claim whatever they want. It's not as if anyone gives a damn. It certainly won't ever stop me (or anyone else, for that matter) from ripping for my various players, my car or anything else I see fit any more than any of their other impotent prognostications have.

End of discussion.

[Roj]

Oh...so you think that's bad...as I mentioned in another thread, the RIAA have a bill before Congress that would prohibit any technological advancement or change in the way music is delivered or reproduced unless prior approval is given by the RIAA.
Get real - as if that could ever make a difference.

Three words:

The Far East.

Buh bye...

[Inthewoods]

This is just getting stupid now. Someone please give the RIAA a slap. Now?? the RIAA has been stupid all along, but this just about tears it. they need more than a slap, they need to be taught a lesson. There are "fair use" laws and I will continue to apply them as they are intended. The RIAA being upset about pirating is one thing, but telling me how and where I am allowed to listen to music that I have paid for (which I won't be doing much of, if any, in the near future) is quite another.

Here's a link just for fun:http://cosmo7.com/safety/safetyriaa.jpg

Please note before you go there, I would rate this an "R".

[Protocol]

This ongoing issue with RIAA and others appears to revolve around one issue in particular. And that is "duplication". I do not know the answer, but something needs to be sorted.

One a side issue to all this. I have a substantial record and cassette collection that I no longer use due to technology advancements such as CDs and all the other various electronic formats. Should I now be entitled to some sort of concession from the record companies to upgrade my old records to an electronic format? Or should I have to purchase the same albums twice?

[acushla]

Get real - as if that could ever make a difference.

Three words:

The Far East.

Buh bye...

Er...if you read my post again you will realize that I simply stated a fact. I did not comment or express any personal opinion on the story.:bulb:

If I was to make a comment I would say it is highly unlikely that Congress is just going to hand over the type of control the RIAA is requesting.

I think you will concede though...the very fact that Congress is even considering the matter, is definitely troubling....and laughable.:)

[Roj]

This ongoing issue with RIAA and others appears to revolve around one issue in particular. And that is "duplication". I do not know the answer, but something needs to be sorted.

One a side issue to all this. I have a substantial record and cassette collection that I no longer use due to technology advancements such as CDs and all the other various electronic formats. Should I now be entitled to some sort of concession from the record companies to upgrade my old records to an electronic format? Or should I have to purchase the same albums twice?

You're kidding, right? :) Are you not familiar with the term BOHICA?

[Roj]

Er...if you read my post again you will realize that I simply stated a fact. I did not comment or express any personal opinion on the story.:bulb:

Neither did I. That isn't opinion up there in my post. It's a little thing called REALITY.

If I was to make a comment I would say it is highly unlikely that Congress is just going to hand over the type of control the RIAA is requesting.

Who cares if they do or don't - they're irrelevant and whatever they do can't and won't change anything. Those corrupt old men have long since past the point where any of their edicts could have any effect on either their country or the world in general.

I think you will concede though...the very fact that Congress is even considering the matter, is definitely troubling....and laughable.:)

Nah - see above. A difference that makes no difference is no difference - and they're not even capable of making a difference in the first place. The RIAA will rant and rave. "Congress" or whatever passes for that fakery will try and pass laws to do whatever. And people like me will keep right on doing whatever the hell we want to. So pray tell why should we care?

[Protocol]

Are you not familiar with the term BOHICA?
Youch!!! :shocked:

[Roj]

Youch!!! :shocked:
That's what "CD", "DVD-Audio" and especially "SACD" all spell.

[Protocol]

Youch!!! http://www.quinnware.com/forum/images/emots/shocked.gif

That's what "CD", "DVD-Audio" and especially "SACD" all spell.
Only if you want it to. :silly:

[Roj]

Only if you want it to. :silly:
True... true...

As a somewhat off-topic aside (and yet not), I see there's a new laser pickup for us vinyl afficionados. No wear and tear from dragging a diamond across a plastic groove - it's all laser. And it records digitally direct to CD. Dear gawd, how the impotent cretins who comprise the RIAA must hate this new technology.

[Protocol]

True... true...

As a somewhat off-topic aside (and yet not), I see there's a new laser pickup for us vinyl afficionados. No wear and tear from dragging a diamond across a plastic groove - it's all laser. And it records digitally direct to CD. Dear gawd, how the impotent cretins who comprise the RIAA must hate this new technology.
:bulb: Now there's an answer to my earlier question. But not an answer that RIAA would like. :bandit:

[Todd The Kiwi]

ok TWENTY GRAND for one of those laser turntables lads
i'll stick with my $70 a pop gougers ha ha
riaa can still kiss my arse though

woods - good one ya shocker :cheeky:

[rorythedog]

I'd have thought the RIAA would be loving it. After all, it's keeping them in a job, at least. :cheeky:

[acushla]

Seems there were so many threads to put this...building upon the 'girl guides' story...

MPAA Trains Dogs to Sniff Out Pirate DVDs

Two black Labradors are being employed in the fight against piracy in the U.K.

Jeremy Kirk, IDG News Service
Thursday, May 11, 2006

The Motion Picture Association of America is putting some bite behind its bark in its fight against illegally copied CDs and DVDs.

The movie industry group has funded the eight-month training of two black Labradors, called Lucky and Flo, who can now sniff out optical discs at customs points and other locations. The MPAA worked with its U.K. counterpart, the Federation Against Copyright Theft (FACT).

Full story: http://www.pcworld.com/news/article/0,aid,125679,00.asp

[Roj]

Seems there were so many threads to put this...building upon the 'girl guides' story...

MPAA Trains Dogs to Sniff Out Pirate DVDs

Two black Labradors are being employed in the fight against piracy in the U.K.

Jeremy Kirk, IDG News Service
Thursday, May 11, 2006

The Motion Picture Association of America is putting some bite behind its bark in its fight against illegally copied CDs and DVDs.

The movie industry group has funded the eight-month training of two black Labradors, called Lucky and Flo, who can now sniff out optical discs at customs points and other locations. The MPAA worked with its U.K. counterpart, the Federation Against Copyright Theft (FACT).

Full story: http://www.pcworld.com/news/article/0,aid,125679,00.asp
Saw that. There's only one problem: they're not law enforcement. So, unless they plan onusing their own elite crack force of SturmSteppers to invade people's houses, canvas airports and the like, they're S.O.L.. Naturally, they haven't a bone in this country. :) :) ;)

[acushla]

Saw that. There's only one problem: they're not law enforcement. So, unless they plan on using their own elite crack force of SturmSteppers to invade people's houses, canvas airports and the like, they're S.O.L.. Naturally, they haven't a bone in this country. :) :) ;)
I do not understand what you mean by 'they're not law enforcement'. I think that they provided the funding...it is the custom agents who will actually be handling the dogs.

It seems highly unlikely (which I write with the knowledge that nothing is 'highly unlikely' when it comes to these people)...still, it is highly unlikely that they will fund a program that has no possibility of getting them any results. What would be the point?

[Roj]

I do not understand what you mean by 'they're not law enforcement'. I think that they provided the funding...it is the custom agents who will actually be handling the dogs.

Ah. I had to take a bathroom break between the last message and this one (MAN, last night's chicken disagreed with me!) and while I was seriously contemplating the various esoteric uses or porcelain down through the ages, I had a vision of brown uniforms, jackboots, black armbands and just a hint of mascara. Scaaary stuff, kidz...

It seems highly unlikely (which I write with the knowledge that nothing is 'highly unlikely' when it comes to these people)...still, it is highly unlikely that they will fund a program that has no possibility of getting them any results. What would be the point?

I'll counter with "they're dumping billions into copy protection schemes that are defeated at worst within weeks (usually it's days). What's your point?".

[acushla]

What's your point?".Well...since you do open the door for me, (and this may have more to do with the fact that we are discussing dogs in this context) I believe that they will used to uncover hundreds of 'kilos' of illegally manufactured DVD's...rather than the couple of joints...I mean discs...you have in your backpack.

I know I am completely wrong...but more importantly I know why I'm completely wrong.

It is because I am applying logic and rational reasoning to acts that are actually insane and defy any logic.

Oh yes...did I mention I am now a 'believer'?

[Roj]

Well...since you do open the door for me, (and this may have more to do with the fact that we are discussing dogs in this context) I believe that they will used to uncover hundreds of 'kilos' of illegally manufactured DVD's...rather than the couple of joints...I mean discs...you have in your backpack.
They'd be better off dealing with the coke - it does more harm than ANY number of pirated DVDs. One kills people - the other pisses off fat cats who are still making FAR more money than the drug dealers via legal extortion.

[lingenfr]

I think this is great. Maybe it will help to wake the world up that the ??AA's are out of control. Contact your elected representatives and stop buying their products. I don't advocate piracy, but I fully support your right to use the content you purchased in any format you darn well please.