Rating

[lynott]

Would be nice to be able to rate songs in the playlist (rightclick dialog).

[Rex_Mundi_Incarnit]

Would be nice to be able to rate songs in the playlist (rightclick dialog).

Not to sound too critical, but what would be the purpose of doing that other than convincing yourself that one particular song is really 4 stars than 3 stars because it sounds better with 4 stars. ;)

[Qaz]

Not to sound too critical, but what would be the purpose of doing that other than convincing yourself that one particular song is really 4 stars than 3 stars because it sounds better with 4 stars. ;)
You are already able to rate songs in the Media Library.

[lynott]

Not to sound too critical, but what would be the purpose of doing that other than convincing yourself that one particular song is really 4 stars than 3 stars because it sounds better with 4 stars. ;)

Not shure if I catch you question?

Anyways, I have 10000 + tracks, and would like to rate them for playlist purposes. I simply find it more logical to do this in the playlist area rather than in ML. That's all....................

[Willow of Oz]

agreed. Coz you're listening to it then.

[Mythril]

Hmm, sorry for bumping a semiold thread, but I'm looking for this feature too. My screen resolution is too small to keep the Media Library up while doing other stuff, so currently I'll have to rightclick on QMP, select "Media library", then rightclick on the song in the playlist, and select "locate in media library", and finally in the media library right-click on the song (or click in the rating field), and choose the rating. Then I have to close Media Library because of the aforementioned screen resolution problem.

Well, if possible, maybe it'd be possible to make a plugin for this? I'd try to do it, but I'm not sure where to start. :ermm:

[Willow of Oz]

Hmm, sorry for bumping a semiold thread, but I'm looking for this feature too. My screen resolution is too small to keep the Media Library up while doing other stuff, so currently I'll have to rightclick on QMP, select "Media library", then rightclick on the song in the playlist, and select "locate in media library", and finally in the media library right-click on the song (or click in the rating field), and choose the rating. Then I have to close Media Library because of the aforementioned screen resolution problem.

Well, if possible, maybe it'd be possible to make a plugin for this? I'd try to do it, but I'm not sure where to start. :ermm:

Hey!
Like if you had qcd focussed, then it would be nice if one of the skins also showed you the rating, or lack thereof. Then ctrl-4 would set the rating to 4. Simple! Though I really think you need an undo for that feature, when you ctrl-4 for some other reason (perhaps thinking you were in some other app) and then you realise you've just changed the rating of that song but you didn't mean to and want to change it back to whatever it was.
The problem with ratings:
Ratings are a tag in the file right? So what happens when you have multiple people listening to the same song?
Main user listens to a song and rates it. Then secondary user of the PC listens to the song and decides that it's pants and rerates it. Hmmm. Stupid ratings.

[Mythril]

Hum, which version of QMP are you using? It doesn't work in my version. (Development B104, erh, so it's a beta version I believe.) Ctrl+(number) is for switching between skin modes... If it worked, it'd actually be better even if no skins show the rating, since at least I can just assume that it works after testing it. Uh, instead of undoing you could just rerate the song, I think....

As for ratings, they aren't really tags, but saved in a database for each user account on Windows. So even if different users use the same computer, as long as they use different windows accounts, they'll get different ratings. ;) But I'm the only one using the computer anyway, so it's not a problem for me.

*sigh* I guess maybe I'll just try to turn off "Always on top" and leave Media Library in the background, then at least I'll save one or two clicks. The Media library doesn't show what is currently playing so I'll still have to click on the song in the playlist and select "Locate in Media Library".

Hum, unless anyone has any hints on how to add options to the right-click menu in the playlist with a plugin?

[Willow of Oz]

Hum, which version of QMP are you using? It doesn't work in my version. (Development B104, erh, so it's a beta version I believe.) Ctrl+(number) is for switching between skin modes... If it worked, it'd actually be better even if no skins show the rating, since at least I can just assume that it works after testing it. Uh, instead of undoing you could just rerate the song, I think....

No, I'm not saying you can do that now. I'm just saying that having a hotkey for setting the rating 1-5 (and something like ctrl/alt/shift and a number makes sense to me) would be very handy. And yeah, you could just rerate it.


As for ratings, they aren't really tags, but saved in a database for each user account on Windows. So even if different users use the same computer, as long as they use different windows accounts, they'll get different ratings.

yeah, saw that on a different thread. Interesting, since I'm pretty sure there's an id3v2.4 tag for ratings, and I just assumed they'd go there.

[DreamforDistance]

yeah, saw that on a different thread. Interesting, since I'm pretty sure there's an id3v2.4 tag for ratings, and I just assumed they'd go there.

Well, if you force it to write tags to the files (can be done from the context menu in ML), it will write a Rating tag to the file, but it seems to be a custom user tag with values 0, 20, 40, 60, 80, 100 to represent 0(none)-5. There is a id3v2.x tag for rating purposes but it's not really used by anyone, the POPM frame:

4.17. Popularimeter

The purpose of this frame is to specify how good an audio file is.
Many interesting applications could be found to this frame such as a
playlist that features better audio files more often than others or
it could be used to profile a person's taste and find other 'good'
files by comparing people's profiles. The frame contains the email
address to the user, one rating byte and a four byte play counter,
intended to be increased with one for every time the file is played.
The email is a terminated string. The rating is 1-255 where 1 is
worst and 255 is best. 0 is unknown. If no personal counter is wanted
it may be omitted. When the counter reaches all one's, one byte is
inserted in front of the counter thus making the counter eight bits
bigger in the same away as the play counter ("PCNT"). There may be
more than one "POPM" frame in each tag, but only one with the same
email address.

<Header for 'Popularimeter', ID: "POPM">
Email to user <text string> $00
Rating $xx
Counter $xx xx xx xx (xx ...)

Interesting implementation suggestion, but well, it really should have been thought out better in the specification. So now the standard seems to be using a custom frame for Rating, though there doesn't seem to be a real standard for how it's formatted which is a shame. Many Media Libraries store to a database rather than the audio file for ratings anyway.

More on this in a new thread soon.

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