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acushla

08-29-2005, 08:41 AM

I have a 'legal' copy of PHOTOSHOP CS and have attempted to install it on my laptop...you know...changing the date back and then bringing it forward.

However..this time when I try to open it I receive a window telling me that my serial number has expired.

I have never heard of this.

Any suggestions? (Besides go buy a new copy!)

Protocol

08-29-2005, 08:49 AM

acushla

08-29-2005, 09:59 AM

Why did you change the date for a legal copy?

Well...it MUST have been a legal copy once to somebody.

When I got the file I was told to chage the date back on my computer to 2003, install, and then put the date back.

I have had no problem doing this in the past...but now...not so much.

Todd The Kiwi

08-29-2005, 11:13 AM

there is more that one crack for CS mate, look harder...

krazyd

08-29-2005, 04:45 PM

Isn't there CS2 now?

bmc152003

08-29-2005, 06:20 PM

i have a *cough*illegal*cough* copy of cs2 that works fine. :biggrin:

Shewolf

08-29-2005, 06:38 PM

I'm still using my Photoshop CS. Love it i do.
*Wanders off to check CS2*

Sheepeh

08-29-2005, 06:39 PM

I'm using...Paint. Fear my skills.

Shewolf

08-29-2005, 06:42 PM

I'm using...Paint. Fear my skills.

Hmm..I do fear your Night Elf Pimp.......

Tokelil

08-29-2005, 06:49 PM

acushla

08-29-2005, 07:12 PM

Im using GIMP. Takes some to get use to IMO but works pretty well I think! For small cropping, resizing etc. I use FastStone Image viewer which is really nice!
(Abit OT I know... But there's some good free alternatives IMO)

Yes...I've used GIMP and agree that, once you get somewhat familiar with it, there is a lot you can accomplish.

My CANON 20D camera came with a PHOTOSHOP ELEMENTS Disk (as did my new laptop). I've installed it, and even though it has only one half hour I have to say I am not overly impressed.

I am trying to find a program I tried for a while as a result of reading about it in some Photo Forum. I really liked it but as I already had PHOTOSHOP CS, I uninstalled it.

Now of course I'd like to have it back. I do not remember the name..but would recognise it if I saw it.

It is possible that it was mentioned in this forum..and I will be going back through some threads to see it I can find it.

Will let you know if I find it..and if not...then I will tell you what I did find.

Edit: FastStone Image Viewer is what I eventually installed.

It is by no means perfect but it does support RAW files and batch opening.

I find the colour tools somewhat lacking...and it would be nice to be able to adjust the colour on one image and then apply the changes to all images...something my 'mystery' program was able to do.

Heigar

08-29-2005, 10:51 PM

paint shop pro?

As for photoshop cs2, It is more of a rescource hog than any other photoshop, I had it on my pc for an hour and had to close out of it 3 times, for the fact that the tools would stop responding, and I have a p4 2.8 ghz with a gig of ram.I'll stick with cs (legal copy)for the time being.

Toe

08-30-2005, 04:35 AM

If any of you haven't already seen it, GimpShop (http://plasticbugs.com/index.php?p=241) is worth checking out. They basicly took Gimp and gave it a more Photoshop-like interface. There's builds for Win, Linux, and Mac linked on that page.

I've been playing with Canvas (http://www.deneba.com/) for a while now. You can do some awesome things with it - it's got the strongest integration of vector and raster graphics into a single application that I've ever seen. Unfortunately, it's also got quite a few bugs & rough edges. Still might be worth giving the demo a shot...

acushla

08-31-2005, 08:47 AM

If any of you haven't already seen it, GimpShop (http://plasticbugs.com/index.php?p=241) is worth checking out. They basicly took Gimp and gave it a more Photoshop-like interface.

Another Photo Image editor that is considered 'better' than GIMP is a Photoshop clone called PhotoPlus6...free of course. Find it here:

http://www.freeserifsoftware.com/software/PhotoPlus/photo_editing_software.asp

Another editor worth playing with is pixmantec 'RawShooter'...free but it is somewhat confusing. It says 'trial'...you just have to know that the trial is forever! Find it here:

http://www.pixmantec.com/index2.html

Personally I have to state that I am finding FastStone Imaging very pleasant to use...very well laid out and therefore easier to use. Find it here:

http://www.faststone.org/FSViewerDetail.htm

Don't let the kittens in the ad layout put you off..it really is a good program.

Toe

08-31-2005, 10:02 AM

I suppose one thing that can matter when talking about these things is what exactly you're planning to use it for. Acushla I'm guessing just wants to be able to edit photos, whereas someone else might want more tools for web or skin image editing, while another might want fancy natural media support, or whatever. Different apps excel in different areas.

DreamforDistance

08-31-2005, 10:44 AM

CS2 is wonderful....

but if you think that's crazy (I still use CS at home but use the CS2 Suite on a client's video editing/graphics arts box), I recently heard they've already got CS3 in the works with lots of new features (as if there weren't a mind numbing amount already) better Vanishing Point features, and an even higher end Premium edition that will be available that I believe will be marketed towards digital photography professionals and have some truly amazing RAW editing tools. I haven't looked into it myself but my head started spinning just hearing about it from a graphic designer buddy... I can't imagine what else they're going to add in once the Macromedia aquisition is officially complete.

The computer world moves too fast these days... hardware is outdated within weeks of purchase (that's been the case for a long time) and now they even seem to be releasing new versions of software at alarmingly high rates.

Oh, there are some pretty nifty Raw Image handling capabilities in CS2 already by the way and Adobe Bridge CS2 is a serious boon to anyone working with digital media... especially digital photographers. And you can save templates/presets (for color settings as mentioned and tons of other stuff) and batch apply it easily to groups of images. Just send me that CANON 20D and I'll tell you anything you need to know. ;)

d4d

Toe

08-31-2005, 11:36 AM

To be honest, I don't follow Adobe's upgrade cycle. To me, Photoshop is only worth upgrading every other version or so. The amount of new stuff introduced between version n and version n+1 is pretty small these days. Maybe if I were making my living by Photoshop, but I doubt it.

Shewolf

08-31-2005, 02:32 PM

Aye, I'm happy with my version..it does what I want it to.

biggman15

08-31-2005, 09:10 PM

Heh... I'm a MSpaint User... But then I'm only interested in Adding little Arrows and What not to Point things out in Screenshots...

Although I have a Copy of CS 8... (Mmm... Freebies....) That really Confuses me when Just looking at it... I can't even Imagine how do anything in Gimp....

Shewolf

08-31-2005, 09:13 PM

Hehe.

I create graphics, edit photos (sometimes to the extreem), make avatars, banners etc etc and am learning animation.

Now MAYA..there is a program I wanna learn......

Heigar

09-01-2005, 12:16 AM

Maya is a hard software to learn, I've had it on my pc for 3 years now and really haven't figured a whole lot out in it (although I keep trying) because being able to make a small 3d animation film would really cool.

Shewolf

09-01-2005, 12:53 AM

Yeah, I've had a copy on here for a while.
My other half was learning it at uni so I've learnt a little.

acushla

09-01-2005, 03:24 AM

Just send me that CANON 20D and I'll tell you anything you need to know. ;)

Fine camera.

Where do I send it to?

Shadowraven

09-01-2005, 05:39 AM

Should have guessed that you'd have that camera Acushla, or at the least know of it.

As for Photoshop, I've had it for a while, but haven't used it too much as it's not that intuitive to me. I've mostly been using Paint Shop Pro when making my skins. I use IrfanView as my workhorse default image viewer. I might have to check out these other programs you guys are talking about. I've also used ZBrush a bit. That's a pretty good program, and makes some awesome images, but it has a really steep learning curve to it. I've had it for a couple of years and I am still trying to figure out how to use it properly.

DreamforDistance

09-01-2005, 12:17 PM

Yep, that Canon is a very nice camera... great pic there! I've been wanting to get myself a nice DSLR or at least one of the newer cameras that approaches the capabilities of the DSLRs without the hefty price tags since I'm having a really hard time justifying the cost of a going out to the movies lately let alone buying a new camera, lol.

Shadowraven, I was just playing around with Zbrush myself the other day as my graphic artist buddy is spending a lot of time learning it... it really is quite amazing, but definitely a steep learning curve even for seasoned 3D veterans. There's a mindblowing number of features and one of the most unique UIs I've seen in quite a while. It's far from intuitive, but it has really good tutorials built into the program that run through it's scripting engine. So if you're willing to sit there and learn a bit at a time it's a great tool and really just a lot of fun to play with. It makes others like Deeppaint look primative.

Speaking of 3D (which is more my area of expertise), yes, Maya is very complicated. I used to use Wavefront on SGI boxes running IRIX when I was a teenager and the innovations that have happened since Alias and Wavefront became one are phenomenal. However, this software is mainly meant for hardcore 3D modeling/animation professionals so I wouldn't exactly recommend it for any hobbyists/enthusiasts that don't have OCD and a lot of time on their hands, hehe. Different apps have different strengths of course, but I always found 3DSMax fairly accessible overall and Lightwave to be great for modelling if you can get used to the UI. Many people favor XSI SoftImage as well which I'm biased though because I first learned 3D stuff using Lightwave on an Amiga with a Video Toaster at a place I worked in my early teens while using Pov-Ray + Moray (which are still available) at home to teach myself the basics of modelling/rendering. For mid-range packages, Hash Animation Master has a pretty decent following (though it's very different from other 3D programs so lots of others hate it) and Truespace is a simple to use but fairly powerful solution. Unfortunately, Truespace has gone downhill since version 3.x so I can't vouch for it anymore, but the old versions used to be a mainstay of mine for small projects without too much fuss of having to deal with the complexeties of some of the larger applications. There are also plenty of other specialized 3d modelling/animation utilities out there including cheap/free/open source ones and finding the right combination of them for your own needs is often better than trying to tackle learning a huge complex professional 3D application. If you really want to learn Maya start with a less complex program, learn the basics of 3D modelling/animation concepts in a not-so-threatening environment, go back to Maya when you're ready and things will make a lot more sense.

Finally, to Toe: Speaking of Canvas, do you remember the program Expression? One of the best vector/raster natural media graphics programs I remember using. Apparently it was bought by Microsoft or something and they're incorporating it into their own program codenamed Acrylic. Check out http://www.microsoft.com/products/expression/ for a technology preview download and see how you like it!

d4d

Toe

09-01-2005, 08:41 PM

Yeah, I've seen it. Actually, for a while MS actually had the old version of Expression up on their website FREE. Been meaning to give it a shot...

I didn't know they had a demo of Acrylic out, though. Thanks for the heads up. :)

Toe

09-01-2005, 11:39 PM

Toe

09-03-2005, 12:46 AM

Another Photo Image editor that is considered 'better' than GIMP is a Photoshop clone called PhotoPlus6...free of course. Find it here:

http://www.freeserifsoftware.com/software/PhotoPlus/photo_editing_software.asp
Tried it out a bit. Reminds me of early 32bit versions of Paint Shop Pro. I'd take GimpShop over this.

DreamforDistance

09-03-2005, 04:09 AM

OK, did a bit of poking around, and found the link to the free version of Expression:

http://www.microsoft.com/products/expression/previous/expression3_home.aspx

Just pretend you're an 'existing user'. It doesn't need a serial or anything.

Thanks for the link Toe. I may load it up to play with for old time's sake... better yet, I think I'll put it on my friend's system and play with his Wacom tablet. Not sure how the support is since it is an old program (relatively speaking).

Anyhow, I'm off to the shore for a week, take it easy folks!

d4d

matty28carter

09-03-2005, 08:58 PM

If you want Adobe CS2 download it directly off Adobe. There such a clever buch. Remeber, google is your friend. :bandit:

Toe

09-10-2005, 08:17 AM

On a related note, bleah, WTF did they do to the new version of XnView? :(

Todd The Kiwi

10-06-2006, 08:29 AM

i have a PS question
how can i 'crop' the "foreground" from an image?
let's say this image (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v608/toddthekiwi/shex.jpg) i want to crop the player and all its menus, but not the background.

EDIT: cool, i think i sussed it [pics]

original

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v608/toddthekiwi/th_shex.jpg (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v608/toddthekiwi/shex.jpg)

cropped using "extract tool"

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v608/toddthekiwi/th_shexextracted.jpg (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v608/toddthekiwi/shexextracted.jpg)

filled using some other tool

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v608/toddthekiwi/th_shexextractedfilled.jpg (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v608/toddthekiwi/shexextractedfilled.jpg)

acushla

10-06-2006, 08:57 AM

i have a PS question
how can i 'crop' the "foreground" from an image?
let's say this image (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v608/toddthekiwi/shex.jpg) i want to crop the player and all its menus, but not the background.I'm not suggesting it can't be done...but I am telling you that neither you or I would be able to. Unless we took a 5 year University Course in Photoshop. This assumes I know what you are asking.

The problem is that there is 'nothing' behind the areas you want to crop. Once you did the crop you would have white space showing where the player was before the crop.

Somebody who really knew what they were doing could take the background image and 'stretch' it to fill in the blank spaces.

Having said that, perhaps it is easier than I originally thought...play around and see if you can take the existing background and replicate it into the blank spaces.:bulb:

Then show us your results.:)