Understanding USA's foreign policy.

[acushla]

In case there is any confusion about the US and their foreign policy...especially as it relates to Iraq...simply look at the price of a barrel of crude oil today and the effect that has in every area of US life.

For a complete understanding...think for one moment what would happen if suddenly oil from Saudi Arabia was no longer available to us.

It's called survival.

[Toe]

For a complete understanding...think for one moment what would happen if suddenly oil from Saudi Arabia was no longer available to us.
The politicians and businesses might finally stop dragging their heels on moving toward viable long-term alternatives. What a thought!

[Todd The Kiwi]

think for one moment
what would happen if suddenly oil from Saudi Arabia was no longer available to usyou mean us or US ? :scared:

as Toe said, we need long term alternates man, oil doesn't grow on trees :ermm:

[jkrzok]

Sadly Bush just signed an energy bill that did nothing to eliminate US dependence on oil.

It did however provide big tax breaks to the oil companies.

At a time when they're making record profits.

Just more of Bush's America.

[Toe]

as Toe said, we need long term alternates man, oil doesn't grow on trees :ermm:
No, but gas grows in corn and sugar fields...
http://www.latinpetroleum.com/printer_4369.shtml

[Todd The Kiwi]

ha ha you said brazilian :laugh:

crops are hardly good for the planet though (cultivation) :skull:

[acushla]

Sadly Bush just signed an energy bill that did nothing to eliminate US dependence on oil.

It did however provide big tax breaks to the oil companies.

At a time when they're making record profits.

Just more of Bush's America.

I'm curious...could the US ever eliminate its dependence on oil?

I'll concede that perhaps in, oh I don't know, lets say 300 years...the answer to that question might be yes.

Surely, if one is purely objective about where we find ourselves now...long term solutions should not be our first concern.

[Rex_Mundi_Incarnit]

I'm curious...could the US ever eliminate its dependence on oil?


Yeah...nuclear fusion...not yet though ha ha. I think it was the USA who signed a little treaty a la Kyoto with China to battle air pollution but no conditions were suggested so it's really an empty shell promise. Since the oil price has been increasing to 60 dollars per barrel i can only say that is a good thing for alternative energy sources to become more affordable. For sure in the long run when oil will start to become depleted anyways. We'll all start driving hybrid cars running partially on hydrogen fuel :biggrin:

[Todd The Kiwi]

We'll all start driving hybrid cars running partially on hydrogen fuel :biggrin:crossing the road just became that much more dangerous... :ninja:

[Shadowraven]

Actually a car running on hydrogen is much safer to drive in than one running on gasoline. Petrol blows out from it's ignition point, hydrogen, being lighter than air, blows up. So an exploding hydrogen fuel tank is unlikely to harm you much.

As for the U.S. ever turning away from oil dependency, don't count on it too soon. At least not with Dubya the oil tycoon in office. We see time and again how he likes to throw gimmes to his friends in the fossil fuel business. He's shown that he is little interested in encouraging alternative fuels to be the new standard. Hydrogen is too common, hard to charge an arm and a leg for. It's also pretty easy to extract. Not something his monopoly minded friends like too much. They don't make a killing off of it.

His cabinet, cronies, and government buddies are making too much money from it to want to stop the gravy train now. Even though it's killing the rest of us. My monthly petrol bill has started to become a real burden to me, but Bush-Pig doesn't care about that. It doesn't effect him and or his own, at least not negatively. Just more compassionate conservatism at work!

[acushla]

Just more compassionate conservatism at work!

Isn't this a moxyoron?

[Shadowraven]

Isn't this a moxyoron?
Pretty much. At least that's the way I've always seen that term to be.

[Antman]

See Network, a 1977 film starring Faye Dunaway, William Holden and Ned Beatty as God.

Film as prophecy.

[Shadowraven]

See Network, a 1977 film starring Faye Dunaway, William Holden and Ned Beatty as God.

Film as prophecy.
I know. It's often occurred to me recently just how prophetic that movie actually turned out to be. Kinda scary really.