Cover Art

[svwspider]

I've added the cover art plug-in some time ago and continued with QMP. Yet, gracenote doesn't add this, does it? I still have to use MMJB to get cover art and that's the only purpose MMJB serves at ths time.

Will this ever be part of the gracenote addition, or would that be a "pay for"?

[Toe]

Ugh, MMJB is one of those apps that sticks the album cover art inside of an ID3 tag, ain't it?
Terrible, terrible idea.

Now for a GOOD idea, Paul could tell his Gracenote friends to get off their butts and put some decent-sized album cover pics into the web pages shown by QMP's music browser. And maybe the song's lyrics too. (Though from what I gather that's really hard to squeeze out of the music companies.)

It would make the music browser FAR more useful than it is now, IMHO.

[svwspider]

I surrender to your knowledge and understanding of the technology behind all this, however, since I cannot hear any sonic difference between those with "cover art" or not, then it still seems fair game to me wherever the "cover art" comes from. Not being one into the visuals very much, the cover art is something I like to add a bit of "finish". Since my Music PC sits behind my bar, next to my stereo equipment, It's add a nice (albeit small) display to the whole experience. What I would hate is to have to reach out to the net everytime a new song plays to try to find cover art of it, and with the multiple choises that frequently come up, that would be a pain.....

But, there's always a better idea just around the corner so....

[matty28carter]

I surrender to your knowledge and understanding of the technology behind all this, however, since I cannot hear any sonic difference between those with "cover art" or not, then it still seems fair game to me wherever the "cover art" comes from. Not being one into the visuals very much, the cover art is something I like to add a bit of "finish". Since my Music PC sits behind my bar, next to my stereo equipment, It's add a nice (albeit small) display to the whole experience. What I would hate is to have to reach out to the net everytime a new song plays to try to find cover art of it, and with the multiple choises that frequently come up, that would be a pain.....

But, there's always a better idea just around the corner so....

There is a coverart plug in somewhere in the plugins section.

[Tokelil]

There's nothing wrong with cover arts in songs. Some people dont like the meta data concept and believes that song meta data shouldn't be in the song files. Personally I dont see the reason behind this. One argument could be waste of space, but we are talking < 100KB per file. With high quality encodings thats 1/50 -> 1/100 the size of the file. It has no influence on audio quality.

[Protocol]

There's nothing wrong with cover arts in songs. Some people dont like the meta data concept and believes that song meta data shouldn't be in the song files. Personally I dont see the reason behind this. One argument could be waste of space, but we are talking < 100KB per file. With high quality encodings thats 1/50 -> 1/100 the size of the file. It has no influence on audio quality.
I was just about to ask what the problem was with metadata (cover art, lyrics, etc.). But you have just answered it.

[Toe]

Album art doesn't really fit my definition of 'metadata'. MP3 ain't really designed to be a metadata-rich format in the first place. (MPEG-4, and even more so MPEG-7, on the other hand...)

Even then, if album art is to be considered metadata, it belongs to the 'album' not to the individual track. The only common metadata format I know of for albums is playlist files. If there were a playlist format that allowed for linking of an external JPEG containing the album art, I would be fine with that, but I don't think any of the common playlist formats allow for that.

I'm not real big on ID3v2 either, but that's a whole 'nother rant. :P

[svwspider]

There is a coverart plug in somewhere in the plugins section.

Sure is and I use it. Unfortunately I still have to use MMJB to "get" the cover art as the QMP/Gracenote deal does not and the plugin is for displaying the cover art, not for acquiring it....If it did, or does, I could dump MMJB forever....

[Protocol]

Sure is and I use it. Unfortunately I still have to use MMJB to "get" the cover art as the QMP/Gracenote deal does not and the plugin is for displaying the cover art, not for acquiring it....If it did, or does, I could dump MMJB forever....
Yes. I only use MMJB for tagging also. Nothing else. :ermm: At least it is good for something.

[thor]

I totally understand if somebody (Toe in this case for ex.) are reluctant to the Cover-art tagging idea. It is essentially related the album and not to each music file, yes... but that image is the only one that you can truly use to graphically represent each musical work (album) as a "whole" having in mind the artist original intention.
But all this issue is a taste or choose thing. Finally you can choose to use it or not.
Plus (and here i'm talking as a DJ and a huge musical collection owner) those cover-arts are always the best memory refreshing to mentally build a good playlist.
So... my point here is, I agree with the "get cover-art" idea as a possibility, but I am more agree with some kind of "show cover-art" device included into the Media Library.
That device would be able to work in the same way that the excellent Acozz's plugin actually do, but related to the clicked album or file info into the Media Library.
If this could be implemented as a seteable feature i'll be in heaven. Figure me trying to manage what can I set in a new Playlist for some broadcast show, when my ML includes almost 3500 possibly albums for choose with almost 54.000 music files into.