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Asmo
11-27-2003, 06:33 PM
Hello, world! :)
So, the question is in subject. Personally I use OSS 3D (www.oss3d.com). The best sound quality and great amount of settings. Version 7 has been recently released. Try!

#The fREaK!
11-28-2003, 12:16 PM
I used OSS/3D before together with some other dsps. Now I only use Direct-X plugins runned through Adapt-X.
inside Adapt-X I run VB:RACK FFX16 DX, a direct x plugin stacker. Adapt-X supports multiple dsps, however it
is very buggy and crashes VERY easily.

The main reason I run the plugins through VB Rack FFX16 is that it takes care of the stacking & processing
instead of Adapt-X and therefore fixes the crash problems. It also makes QCD load up much faster than using
Adapt-X. Adapt-X loads the GUI of every single plugin when it starts. That can take alot of time... VB Rack
dosent. It opens the GUIs in separate windows when you double click a plugin in the list.
So the only plugin GUIs loading up are Adapt-X and VB Rack FFX16.

VB Rack also has a cool feature. If a plugin overdrives the volume, you can put another plugin afterwards and
decrease or limit the volume with it - and the clipping never occours! Wonderful... It also has input and output
volume meters and a bypass button. And buttons to open, minimize, line up and close all plugin windows at
once.

My new favorite DSP set is the PSP MixPack. The plugins in it does the best and also best sounding analog
equipment simulation I have ever heard! They also have great 'enhancing' capabilities. A winamp plugin like
OSS/3D is a joke compared to a good set of DirectX plugins...

brian
11-28-2003, 02:18 PM
fREaK - please talk me through how you got PSP working with QCD. I've downloaded the MixPack demo and installed it in my QCD plugins folder, but QCD doesn't recognise it. The PSP manual doesn't help much with installation issues. Many thanks.

#The fREaK!
11-28-2003, 05:00 PM
It is not QCD / Winamp plugins. You have to run it through some kind of adapter. Like the Adapt-X plugin. (http://jobsearch.chez.tiscali.fr/en/fadaptx_w2.htm) Open the Adapt-X window, click on the add button (+) and select a PSP plugin from the list. There are probably some other plugins there too. Also, you can install PSP MixPack anywhere, since it is regonized by hosts using system registry keys.

brian
11-28-2003, 09:13 PM
fREaK - thanks very much for your advice. But you're right, Adapt-X is very buggy, I get all kinds of weird things happening when I try to use it on its own. I see that VB Rack FFX16 is quite costly, so I guess I'll give the whole thing a miss and stay with the plugins I've already got - DFX, Ozone, Octimax, Sound Solution, Enhancer - the first three of which I've already bought and paid for.

Roj
11-29-2003, 03:42 PM
I used OSS/3D before together with some other dsps.
Hey fREaK, I have a question for you. I want to simulate various room acoustics (hall, auditorium, arena, etc.) with varying degrees of reverb and acoustic echo. What DSP set would I use for this and how would I set it up?

Thanks...

#The fREaK!
11-29-2003, 10:46 PM
Brian:

You could also use the VB:RACK FFX-4. It is like the FFX16 but supports 4 plugins and dosent have the window buttons or the volume meters. You can stack multiple of those in Adapt-X, so the 4 plugin limit isnt any big problem.

Roy:

There are tons of reverb/echo plugins, but most ones, (like with all kind of effects) are either low-quality or very simple. I assume you are only intrested in the high quality ones... If you want a good winamp 2/QCD plugin, there is a sound enviroment simulation plugin called Virtuoso. When it comes to DirectX plugins... I have never seen any complete reverb plugin pack. The big packs often contains 3 or so reverb/echo plugins of wich 1 is of the acoustic type. Then there are a few good free effects... My advice is to check http://www.thedirectxfiles.com/ . They have an almost complete list of DirectX plugins.

niqo
12-02-2003, 10:56 PM
OSS/3D rulezzz!

That's all my computer and QCD needed to make mp3s sound the way original Cds sound in my stereo.
It's only problem is its complexity, planty useless features and crappy presets.

But it's really a real and the best thing.

Cabinessence
12-03-2003, 11:49 AM
I only use 2 DSP's:

- Enhancer 017
- Stereo Expander

Very easy to use, and they sound great on my stereo system.

#The fREaK!
12-03-2003, 09:25 PM
Too lossy, I think. Enhancer can sound good used properly, but the harmonic bass feature distorts the bass in some case by the way it's nonlinear distortion works. It adds deep harmonics, but can sometimes destroys the bass. When I first tried using dsps, I 'enhanced' the sound as much as I could using lots of lo-fi plugins like dee, but when I heard the bi-effects... Now I only use high-quality DSPs.

countryjoe
04-30-2004, 04:00 AM
i use enhancer 017. it seams to work good for me. i like the fact that i can add a little reverb to the music and make it sound live. plus the bass and treble boost makes for nice sound through my altec lansing's. :robot: