What Browser do you Use? [Archive] - Quintessential Forum

DeltaGuy

11-20-2003, 12:15 AM

It may be with TBE - Tabbed Browsing Extension...
http://texturizer.net/firebird/extensions/#tbe
BTW, are you a member over at MozillaZine or MozillaNews?
If you were, you would know me...
MozillaZine Top-Poster #4 and MozillaNews Top-Poster #1...

refused

11-20-2003, 12:59 AM

You can do that with the TBE plugin, yes.

And Firebird rules :D

manymosi

11-20-2003, 03:08 AM

I use MYIE2, it's an IE shell with tabbed windows and a very good popup stopper.
It's freeware and never crashes on my system,

fatal error

11-20-2003, 03:39 AM

Avant Browser for me

Tokelil

11-20-2003, 06:54 AM

I use Netcaptor which is another (the first I think) IE browser with tabs and popup stoppper.

Cabinessence

11-20-2003, 07:12 AM

Firebird, Firebird, Firebird all the way
Oh what fun it is to surf without any delay, hey!

(My point is that Firebird is faster - and better - than IE)

thetribe

11-20-2003, 04:59 PM

Firebird all the way, and I use the "Tabbrowser Extensions" excellent for keeping all my sites in view. :)

DeltaGuy

11-20-2003, 05:24 PM

Oh, and BTW, I don't think that I clarified this. If you are using an IE shell, eg, Avant, SlimBrowser, MyIE, Neoplanet, Netcaptor, etc., please vote for the IE option. I'm more concerned about the rendering engine, the heart of the browser, than the shell. Sorry for any confusion...

Hanzo

11-20-2003, 05:31 PM

I like IE... I have used Opera before but ChannelAdvisor (an auction management software) uses lots of Javascripts for their navigation, Opera can't handle it.

I will check on Firebird, seems good stuff. Is it free?

brian

11-20-2003, 05:37 PM

K-Meleon 0.8 (Gecko-based) does everything I want a browser to do, at high speed, looks good with themes, is customisable using macros, and has a good forum where you can get a quick response to any query.

regener8ed

11-20-2003, 06:37 PM

lol. nice inclusion of the frownie on IE. i think it belongs more on NS4 tho.

personally, i alternate between IE and Firebird.

duckie

11-20-2003, 07:30 PM

chicubs

11-20-2003, 08:36 PM

you didnt include an option for firebird?!?!

#The fREaK!

11-20-2003, 08:57 PM

I use Avant Browser. Ever since I tried it, it have been my favorite browser.

acozz

11-20-2003, 09:49 PM

Firebird is the Gecko engine.

chicubs

11-20-2003, 10:24 PM

Firebird is the Gecko engine.

oh, thanks!

DeltaGuy

11-20-2003, 10:29 PM

Firebird is the Gecko engine.
As is Mozilla, Firebird, Thunderbird, K-Meleon, Beonex, Netscape 6.0+, Camino, and all the other browsers found on This Page (http://www.mozilla.org/projects/distros.html)...

K-Meleon 0.8 (Gecko-based) does everything I want a browser to do, at high speed, looks good with themes, is customisable using macros, and has a good forum where you can get a quick response to any query.
Yea! Another Gecko Vote! How is K-Meleon 0.8, BTW? I haven't tried it out yet. Generally, my main browser is Firebird (w/ Thunderbird) supplemented by Mozilla and Beonex, but I also keep the latest version of K-Meleon on my computer to play around with. I haven't gotten around to installing it yet, though...

lol. nice inclusion of the frownie on IE. i think it belongs more on NS4 tho.
personally, i alternate between IE and Firebird.
Yes, I know NS4 is bad, but everyone knows that IE and Microsoft are EVIL because they don't support standards...
There's going to be a release of IE 6.05 soon, BTW, but ony for Windows XP as part of Service Pack Two...
Why do you go between IE and Firebird. Make the Bird your Default, you know you want to... ;)

Young Twig

11-20-2003, 11:13 PM

IE! :D

Why does everyone stare at me like I have 800 heads when I say I use IE? :confused:

DeltaGuy

11-21-2003, 12:25 AM

IE! :D

Why does everyone stare at me like I have 800 heads when I say I use IE? :confused:
Basically, because you are using an obsolete web browser that does not support current web standards...
Read more on WHY you should switch to Firebird (http://www.mozilla.org/products/firebird/why/) or Mozilla (http://www.mozilla.org/why/)...

Tokelil

11-21-2003, 02:24 AM

Why does everyone stare at me like I have 800 heads when I say I use IE?Because it doesn't have tabs? I will never go back to a browser that hasn't got tabs!

Heigar

11-21-2003, 02:43 AM

Firebird all the way,yeah!!:D

hedge

11-21-2003, 03:14 AM

go the firey bird. Installed it one day just out of interest, and never used anything else since.

brian

11-21-2003, 09:25 AM

Yea! Another Gecko Vote! How is K-Meleon 0.8, BTW? I haven't tried it out yet. Generally, my main browser is Firebird (w/ Thunderbird) supplemented by Mozilla and Beonex, but I also keep the latest version of K-Meleon on my computer to play around with. I haven't gotten around to installing it yet, though...

I find K-Meleon excellent in all the ways I've described. I've tried Firebird, but it has certain drawbacks from my point of view: it messes up my IE favourites, you can't hide the tabs, and you can't create groups for opening several web pages at one go.

blackspawn

11-21-2003, 10:00 AM

I've been using IE + MyIE2 as of late, and I've been pretty happy with it. However I think I'm going to switch to firebird (always hearing nice things about it...). Maybe when 0.8 comes out.

JEdwardP

11-21-2003, 07:32 PM

I use Firebird, with TBE, AdBlock, and PopUp Alt installed.

I'll use the 11/19 aebrahim optimized build until 0.8 comes out next month

DeltaGuy

11-21-2003, 09:51 PM

Because it doesn't have tabs? I will never go back to a browser that hasn't got tabs!
Trust me, it isn't just tabs, no where close. It's about the rendering engine...
I still look at some people strange when they say they use MyIE or Avant...

I use Firebird, with TBE, AdBlock, and PopUp Alt installed.

I'll use the 11/19 aebrahim optimized build until 0.8 comes out next month
Congrats! BTW, you do know that the Bird has a habit of never meeting scheduled release dates. 0.7 was scheduled for June 26, BTW...

I find K-Meleon excellent in all the ways I've described. I've tried Firebird, but it has certain drawbacks from my point of view: it messes up my IE favourites, you can't hide the tabs, and you can't create groups for opening several web pages at one go.
It's all a matter of taste, some people like Firebird's Uber Features, some people like K-Meleon's Smallness, as long as we're all using the same rendering engine everything's fine... ;)

Young Twig

11-21-2003, 10:17 PM

Hanzo

11-22-2003, 05:17 PM

I have K-Meleon on my computer now. It replaced Netscape. I still use IE as default. I just it for web design.

It's funny how everyone says crap about "Mozilla is perfect. blah blah. The rendering engine is god." Funny that most web site bugs are in Mozilla and Opera. Why? Because the cool web designers know that IE is better and that is what they use. :D

I'm kidding, but seriously, what good are w3c's standards if nobody uses them?
Geez man, you've read my mind... that is exactly what I was planning to say. What about Javascript and those other things, how does your beloved Firebird stands with Javascript?

Also have you noticed that many sites I use have Flash for navigation instead of HTML so the browser rendering perfection isn't a essential requirement for me, either.

Goldzilla

11-22-2003, 07:55 PM

I find K-Meleon excellent in all the ways I've described. I've tried Firebird, but it has certain drawbacks from my point of view: it messes up my IE favourites, you can't hide the tabs, and you can't create groups for opening several web pages at one go.

TabBrowser Extensions allows you to hide the tab bar and to put the tab bar on the top or the bottom.

You create groups using bookmarks. If you want to open the group, you right-click on the group and select open Open in tabs. With TabBrowser Extensions, you can define groups and when they come up, they show up in color-code tabs.

I use Context Menu Extensions which allows you to write your own browser extensions in Javascript and have a custom script for startup. The script just has _nettab commands with URLs as the argument and just opens them all up at once.

Goldzilla

11-22-2003, 07:58 PM

Geez man, you've read my mind... that is exactly what I was planning to say. What about Javascript and those other things, how does your beloved Firebird stands with Javascript?

Also have you noticed that many sites I use have Flash for navigation instead of HTML so the browser rendering perfection isn't a essential requirement for me, either.

You can run IE within Firebird if you have a page that only works with IE.

I have one or two pages that I go to from time to time like this.

JEdwardP

11-24-2003, 05:03 AM

Congrats! BTW, you do know that the Bird has a habit of never meeting scheduled release dates. 0.7 was scheduled for June 26, BTW...

Yeah, Delta, I did think of that, but decided to be hopeful, as if putting "next month" in writing would somehow help things along :)

Now that some gracious soul has patched TBE to work again with the newest Firebird builds, I won't dwell as much on the advent of 0.8.

DeltaGuy

11-24-2003, 08:58 PM

I can't wait for version 0.10 and 0.11
To anyone reading, don't try to understand our numbering system...
BTW, we believe that 0.10 > 0.2

Young Twig

11-24-2003, 09:01 PM

I can't wait for version 0.10 and 0.11
To anyone reading, don't try to understand our numbering system...
BTW, we believe that 0.10 > 0.2
At least Microsoft uses some normal numbers... :rolleyes:

Kidding. :D

DeltaGuy

11-25-2003, 01:52 AM

At least Microsoft uses some normal numbers... :rolleyes:

Kidding. :D
Yes, 4.1, 5, 5.1, 5.5, 5.5 SP1, 5.5 SP2, 6.0...
They really know how to count...
I wonder if microsoft is smart enough to know that anything exists between a half and a whole number??? Probably not...

rendongx

12-06-2003, 04:21 AM

i love myie2 ,too

-swt-

12-06-2003, 04:42 AM

<- Opera-User for over 3 Years, and still happy with it
IE F*cK Off :o :p :rolleyes:

DeltaGuy

12-06-2003, 09:08 PM

<- Opera-User for over 3 Years, and still happy with it
IE F*cK Off :o :p :rolleyes:
Opera is my second favourite browser...
I use it frequently also, but not as my main browser...

Sonik

12-06-2003, 09:29 PM

Opera all the way. A lot of people don't like the way it looks when you first get it, but the BluesM-7 skin looks pretty nice as you can see below. Plus I've removed buttons and search fields. Not to mention the added email client works great and it's easy to check my mail quickly without logging in to anything and browsing at the same time.

http://spazcam.net/images/opera.jpg

Young Twig

12-06-2003, 09:53 PM

Sonik

12-07-2003, 10:14 PM

:D You saw my FL Studio icon....cool. Yeah, it's a great program to practice with until you can upgrade to something like Reason or Cubase.

DeltaGuy

12-08-2003, 01:33 AM

Not to mention the added email client works great and it's easy to check my mail quickly without logging in to anything and browsing at the same time.
I've always envyed M2...

Sonik

12-08-2003, 03:34 AM

DeltaGuy

12-08-2003, 11:29 AM

To envy is to resent something for it's greatness. I hope that is what you meant because M2 is awesome. A lot of people don't understand the way it works because it doesn't deal with "folders". It's simply one large database of every email that one receives. But you can create "views" to filter certain emails into several categories. It has other nice features of course too.
I do, I wish there was a version for Firebird...
Of course, Thunderbird isn't all that bad either...
I actually do you M2 for some things. I use Opera for a certian project I'm working on, so all my mail for that project I use M2 to handle...

Sonik

12-08-2003, 01:08 PM

That's cool, may I ask what your project is about? I need somebody to help me with a custom cam portal/rating script for my site. I'm currently working on a project myself that I call "Projekt X." It's to team up with others and by hopefully combining all skills, the final product will be awesome. It doesn't have to deal with SpazCam (my site) either. I'm willing to create a partnership with people. Hopefully it would possible to create a highly interactive website that not only interests people, but can also be a new trend that will expand over time.

DeltaGuy

12-08-2003, 02:51 PM

It's simply a personal project for myself. I currently have two other projects going on, for with I use two other browsers, Mozilla and Beonex...
I like keeping bookmarks, emails, etc separate so I use different browsers...

Rex_Mundi_Incarnit

12-12-2003, 08:34 AM

jawpr

12-12-2003, 09:39 AM

Mozilla is my favourite browser. Maybe because when i use IE i get the feeling that it would not last a day before it is all messed up and corrupted again by all those spyware/hackware virus shit out there.

Hackers target Microsoft, thats a fact. If QCD were for linux, it would be one more reason for me to use linux :)

IE is the only browser I have ever used and I admit my computer was loaded with pop-ups/adware/spyware until I found out how to stop all that stuff from happening. I put Spybot Search and destroy and Spyblaster on to find and keep it off and added No Adds and Pop-up Stopper to get rid of all the pop-ups I was having. They work. Now I have no pop-ups and I run Spybot every morning and find no adware/spyware on my system. The only pop-ups they did not stop was the ones from messenger service and the help file in Spybot search and destroy tells you how to stop all of those. So you can use IE if that is your choice and not be bothered with pop-ups and adware/spyware which seem to be the reason most people do not want to use IE

ahac

12-17-2003, 09:55 PM

:DFirebird!

hm.. the Gecko browsers are winning in the poll.. weird.. the same poll on winamp forums would probably be 99% IE :p

JEdwardP

12-18-2003, 07:52 PM

...same poll on winamp forums would probably be 99% IE :p

If there were such a poll, I'm sure the IE-user percentage would be higher than it seems to be among us, but I wouldn't think it'd be THAT high.

Yes, other browser use will be higher among those of us who generally like to investigate and choose lesser-known, higher-quality software, but remember, Winamp users ARE folks who've made a choice. If they weren't, they'd be using WMP instead of Winamp, since WMP, like IE, is part of the Windows' bundle.

So, I bet a significant percentage of Winamp users will have made other software choices too. They might, for example, be more apt to browse with one of the many IE front-ends, like MyIE2 or Avant. Of course, you could word your poll choices to include those in the IE group though.

Qaz

01-08-2004, 07:52 PM

Opera for me. Since gecko browsers are winning, I also tried them (Mozilla & Firebird), but they didn't have anything new to offer. Well, I guess Firebird is a good choice if you want light browser. But in case of Mozilla, I find Opera better in every aspect.

DeltaGuy

01-08-2004, 08:24 PM

They might, for example, be more apt to browse with one of the many IE front-ends, like MyIE2 or Avant. Of course, you could word your poll choices to include those in the IE group though.
That's what I did... ;)
Read a previous post...

JEdwardP

01-08-2004, 09:07 PM

That's what I did... ;)
Read a previous post...

Oh, I realize you broke it down that way for THIS poll; my previous comment was meant to refer to a similar hypothetical poll in the Winamp forums.

Jencatd

02-01-2004, 11:08 AM

I use Opera, aside from when MSN Messenger calls up IE, IE screws up, and then I switch the link/task over to Opera.

I-mage

02-01-2004, 11:41 AM

Firebird, sometimes MyIE2 when i go on a site coded for IE. In the past, Neoplanet.

a-1wave

02-09-2004, 04:37 PM

I voted already for Internet Explorer but now I have converted to Mozilla Firebird. (Thanks for the tip guys I love it! :ditsy: ) Can I vote again? This time it will be for Mozilla.

jawpr

02-09-2004, 05:06 PM

All of you that use FireBird might want to go to their website and upgrade to FireFox. Firebird is a thing of the past - they have changed it to Firefox as of today I think. There is also a new version of their e-mail available

fatal error

02-09-2004, 05:14 PM

hard to like a something that changes its name more than they change their socks. firefox? oh come on now.....looks like they pick names that will certainly get them sued for copyright infringement.

rorythedog

02-09-2004, 05:15 PM

Probably like most folks I started with IE. Finally, after reading many good reports about Firebird I took the plunge. Excellent.

Tabs are a superb feature and I frankly don't know how I managed without this feature.

When I used to use IE I would run Spybot & AdAware after every session and would always find some crap had invaded my space.

Since switching to Firebird I could just about uninstall these two programs. They never find anything.

So, in summation, not only is Firebird more usable (tabs) but it's also far more secure. Oh, and Firebird is such a cool name, don't you think.

DeltaGuy

02-09-2004, 06:02 PM

Oh, and Firebird is such a cool name, don't you think. Firefox, it's firefox (he says while weeping)...
This is definitely the most stupid name that we've ever though of...
Oh, and here's our new logo and icon:

http://www.mozilla.org/products/firefox/h-ff-dl.png

Watch as our fox humps the world...

matty28carter

02-09-2004, 06:19 PM

plug-ins page looks completely thrown now!

acozz

02-09-2004, 06:30 PM

Am I alone in not being able to download the new versions. Seems like their ftp is down.

Paul

02-09-2004, 06:34 PM

http://www.mozilla.org/products/firefox/h-ff-dl.png

Watch as our fox humps the world...
LOL!

jawpr

02-09-2004, 06:39 PM

Am I alone in not being able to download the new versions. Seems like their ftp is down.

I did not have any trouble downloading

Matt

02-09-2004, 06:42 PM

http://www.mozilla.org/products/firefox/h-ff-dl.png

Watch as our fox humps the world...
haha... what planet is that anyway?? :) Don't recognize the landmass .

acozz

02-09-2004, 06:46 PM

Just after I posted that it started working. Yea, the plugin page is totally messed in this version.

DeltaGuy

02-09-2004, 07:17 PM

Just after I posted that it started working. Yea, the plugin page is totally messed in this version. Really? I don't think we've made any changes to the Gecko engine in this version?

Am I alone in not being able to download the new versions. Seems like their ftp is down. With thousands of people downloading, you wouldn't blame them...
If anyone needs to download it, try using a mirror: http://www.mozilla.org/mirrors.html (http://www.mozilla.org/mirrors/html)
We have about 80 million fast mirrors that for some reason aren't mentioned very much...

Rex_Mundi_Incarnit

02-09-2004, 08:50 PM

Amazing. Firefox, where did this name come from? Looks like i cant download it now...

Matt

02-09-2004, 09:10 PM

I just started to use MYIE2. I'm pretty impressed. I tried out Opera and Firebird and they were pretty good, but just not perfect. I hope they continue to improve.

acozz

02-09-2004, 11:02 PM

Hey, DeltaGuy, can you tell the people at Mozilla that a Bookmarks Toolbar Folder is a stupid idea and shouldn't be forced on me when I don't even use the Bookmark toolbar?

I mean, come on.

Todd The Kiwi

02-09-2004, 11:51 PM

do i upgrade to firefox from firebird or is it a totally different thing ?
i'm quite diggin' firebird and don't really want to cock it up by doing something unnecessary .

rorythedog

02-10-2004, 12:17 AM

do i upgrade to firefox from firebird or is it a totally different thing ?
i'm quite diggin' firebird and don't really want to cock it up by doing something unnecessary .

Hi Todd, how,s it hangin'? I've just done it about half an hour ago. No probs.

First, you should disable all extensions you currently have enabled.

Go to the Firefox download page and click for windows (if that's what you're using?).

I just went for the default install option, but if you want to do a custom install you'll have to read the release notes - there's a link to these on the download page.

Next, just click on install and it,s all taken care of.

One caveat - The plug-ins page, on this site of all sites, is Fugazi.

Other than that, everything seems fine.

Good to hear from you man. :bandit:

DeltaGuy

02-10-2004, 12:18 AM

do i upgrade to firefox from firebird or is it a totally different thing ?
i'm quite diggin' firebird and don't really want to cock it up by doing something unnecessary . Firebird and Firefox are the same product, just with a new name...
Firebird was already in use by another Open Source product, so we decided to change our name voluntarily...

Hey, DeltaGuy, can you tell the people at Mozilla that a Bookmarks Toolbar Folder is a stupid idea and shouldn't be forced on me when I don't even use the Bookmark toolbar?

I mean, come on. Hmm, I just realized that you aren't able to delete it...
You can remove the bookmarks toobar if you don't want to see it...
As for the folder, I'll remember to mention it at MozillaZine (http://forums.mozillazine.org) for you...

Amazing. Firefox, where did this name come from? Looks like i cant download it now... Did you read my post directly above yours? Read below regarding mirrors:

If anyone needs to download it, try using a mirror: http://www.mozilla.org/mirrors.html (http://www.mozilla.org/mirrors/html)
We have about 80 million fast mirrors that for some reason aren't mentioned very much...

rorythedog

02-10-2004, 12:28 AM

Hi Deltaguy. That mirrors link doesn't work. At least I get a 404.

Sorry man :disappoin

DeltaGuy

02-10-2004, 12:34 AM

Sorry, should be a dot instead of a slash...

http://www.mozilla.org/mirrors.html

There's a download link in my signature also...

Todd The Kiwi

02-10-2004, 04:12 AM

kewl i'll suss this out soon, mo' is definatly a cool browser but if firefox is even better... WOOHOO :apple:

Rex_Mundi_Incarnit

02-10-2004, 09:24 AM

Help! Where did the scrollbar go in firefox ??? :ermm: :shocked:

rorythedog

02-10-2004, 10:16 AM

Help! Where did the scrollbar go in firefox ??? :ermm: :shocked:

Mine disappeared too, but came back after a reboot.

Artie

02-10-2004, 11:37 AM

I've tried Opera, (still have it), but I always go back to IE6 for a couple reasons. I prefer the "cool-switch" to tabs, and I've never seen any other browser that handles bookmarks better than IE, or that gives you more usable screen-space than IE.

Artie

(I'll take a look at this Fire-bird/Fox thing however.)

DeltaGuy

02-10-2004, 09:11 PM

With Firefox it is possible to give you even more screenspace than in IE...

Rex_Mundi_Incarnit

02-11-2004, 11:01 PM

Firefox is a load of cow's dung. I have changed back to good ol' mozilla ;) No fuss with dissapearing scrollbars, not being able to download, and other hassles :)

bmc152003

02-11-2004, 11:08 PM

firefox all the way!

Heigar

02-12-2004, 01:16 AM

Firefox is a load of cow's dung. I have changed back to good ol' mozilla ;) No fuss with dissapearing scrollbars, not being able to download, and other hassles :)
That's weird i have had no problems with it,but when it was firebird i had all kinds of problems.

Hanzo

02-12-2004, 04:08 AM

Firefox is a load of cow's dung. I have changed back to good ol' mozilla ;) No fuss with dissapearing scrollbars, not being able to download, and other hassles :)
How come?? Allmighty open source software not working properly out of the box??? There must be something wrong !

DeltaGuy

02-12-2004, 08:11 PM

Firefox is a load of cow's dung. I have changed back to good ol' mozilla ;) No fuss with dissapearing scrollbars, not being able to download, and other hassles :)
It's still only a Technology Preview, all these problems will be fixed by 1.0, hopefully...
And just so you know, when Mozilla versions are released, the download server generally goes down for these also...

How come?? Allmighty open source software not working properly out of the box??? There must be something wrong !
The End Is Coming...

Rex_Mundi_Incarnit

02-14-2004, 08:53 AM

I just like to mention that firefox runs very well in linux mandrake and loads a lot (and i mean a lot) faster than mozilla. Yup, firefox is definitely my default browser in linux :)

nederlande

02-16-2004, 06:05 AM

it does everything i need

Young Twig

02-16-2004, 04:35 PM

I'm using MyIE2 right now. It's nice.

Mootang

02-16-2004, 06:25 PM

I'm using MyIE2 right now. It's nice.
Hey I used to use MyIE2. It had so many cool features... yet I came back to IE.

There was always a problem for me in flash sites, linked buttons to a new page just wouldn't pop up, and I got tired of it.

Hanzo

02-17-2004, 04:00 AM

it does everything i need
I second this... :D

ahac

02-17-2004, 09:20 AM

jawpr

02-17-2004, 12:02 PM

So you guys don't need a download manager, a cookie manager and a password manager? And you really don't need tabs?
But you need selfinstalling spyware and a lot of popups?

I'm sure you would need tabs if you got used to them. It's like driving a Yugo when somebody is offering a free Mercedes: "Hey.. It does everything I need. It moves."

:P

I use IE and I have zero spyware and zero pop-ups on my winxp system. All you have to do is install what some of the other brousers already have installed on their brouser. I use Spybot search and destroy every day and find nothing. I took Spybot's recomendation and added Spyblaster to keep it off and it does exactly that! I use Pop-up Pro and Noads which stop all my pop-ups. So I can't really see the need of using anything else. I tried Firefox and myie2 but went back to IE because for me, it just seems so much easier to use.

Heigar

02-17-2004, 05:08 PM

I use IE and I have zero spyware and zero pop-ups on my winxp system. All you have to do is install what some of the other brousers already have installed on their brouser. I use Spybot search and destroy every day and find nothing. I took Spybot's recomendation and added Spyblaster to keep it off and it does exactly that! I use Pop-up Pro and Noads which stop all my pop-ups. So I can't really see the need of using anything else. I tried Firefox and myie2 but went back to IE because for me, it just seems so much easier to use.
I use both firefox and IE,IE a little more than the other for the fact that I am use to it,spyblaster is a good app,but for popups I recommened stopzilla IMO it is the best popup blocker ever made and you only need the one app instead of two.:D

Young Twig

02-17-2004, 05:08 PM

So you guys don't need a download manager, a cookie manager and a password manager? And you really don't need tabs?
But you need selfinstalling spyware and a lot of popups?

I use tabs with MyIE2. I don't want a download manager, or a password manager or a cookie manager. I don't get pop-ups (with MyIE2 or pop-up popper for IE) and it's not spyware.

rsplitter

03-12-2004, 06:45 PM

I'm a FireFox guy. Though some flash objects don't load sometimes (at all). Other than that it's great.

J44xm

03-13-2004, 02:20 AM

I also use MyIE2. I likes it a lot, I does.

Dragon365

03-13-2004, 03:40 AM

Firefox. No probs here, and I configured it for maximum screen space!

Qaz

03-13-2004, 10:26 AM

Help me out here.

I'd need some VERY light browser for my old comp. It's only P75 so it's realy slow. Something with integrated e-mail client would be great.

hedge

03-13-2004, 10:41 AM

Help me out here.

I'd need some VERY light browser for my old comp. It's only P75 so it's realy slow. Something with integrated e-mail client would be great.
Isn't integrating an e-mail client starting to go away from the light browser requirement you were talking about? But anyway, a lightweight browser that still supports tabs, try K-Meleon. I would say firefox, but i'm not sure how well that would run on something so slow...

Qaz

03-13-2004, 11:34 AM

hedge

03-13-2004, 12:24 PM

I should've meantioned that it has only 24MB of RAM. K-Meleon required 32 and didn't really work at all. Most of the toolbars just missed.

The browser doesn't even have to be the newest version. As long as page-rendering is somewhat modern.
hmm well i dont really know much about browsers, you'll probably have to wait till delta guy gets here...

rsplitter

03-13-2004, 01:08 PM

I should've meantioned that it has only 24MB of RAM. K-Meleon required 32 and didn't really work at all. Most of the toolbars just missed.

The browser doesn't even have to be the newest version. As long as page-rendering is somewhat modern.
Have you tried Opera (http://www.opera.com)? I'm not sure how much memory it consumes though.

DeltaGuy

03-13-2004, 02:04 PM

Have you tried Opera (http://www.opera.com)? I'm not sure how much memory it consumes though. Opera claims that it will work on that system, but if K-Meleon doesn't work, I really don't trust Opera to...
Try Off By One (http://www.offbyone.com/). It will most likely work, but it does have some limitations...
Or if you want an oldie, try Netscape Communicator 4.8 (http://wp.netscape.com/download/archive/client_archive47x.html). It has built in email...

Artie

03-13-2004, 08:40 PM

With Firefox it is possible to give you even more screenspace than in IE...

Impossible; you can't exceed 100% screen space, which IE will do with the "F11/AutoHide Toolbar" option. :)

rsplitter

03-13-2004, 09:03 PM

Impossible; you can't exceed 100% screen space, which IE will do with the "F11/AutoHide Toolbar" option. :)
I find it bigger than IE. With FireFox, the toolbar is narrower. F11 works with FireFox too.

Artie

03-14-2004, 12:41 AM

I find it bigger than IE. With FireFox, the toolbar is narrower. F11 works with FireFox too.

But with IE there is NO toolbar. Thats what I mean by 100%. IE uses all the monitor space, thus, you can't have "more" with any other browser. :)

rsplitter

03-14-2004, 01:11 AM

So what's this then? This is IE 6. The only browser I know with absolute "full screen", is Opera. I know because I tested it out today (didn't like it though).

rsplitter

03-14-2004, 01:15 AM

Sorry. I didn't read (as usual). Right-click on toolbar, then Auto-hide. (Didn't know that, thanks). But I'll still use FireFox though.

hedge

03-14-2004, 01:34 AM

Sorry. I didn't read (as usual). Right-click on toolbar, then Auto-hide. (Didn't know that, thanks). But I'll still use FireFox though.
Theres an extension for firefox that gets rid of the toolbar... check out http://texturizer.net/firebird/extensions/, should be on there somewhere. (its called Autohide, http://www.krickelkrackel.de/autohide.xpi)

rsplitter

03-14-2004, 02:00 AM

Theres an extension for firefox that gets rid of the toolbar... check out http://texturizer.net/firebird/extensions/, should be on there somewhere. (its called Autohide, http://www.krickelkrackel.de/autohide.xpi)
It's fantastic :cool: . Thanks Hedge. :D

Assmongrel

03-14-2004, 09:07 AM

Okay, so up until about a month ago I also used IE... but checkit: firefox is just so much better than IE, once you start using it, you won't go back...

On an interesting note, thats what a friend of mine told me about QCD... and, well, I guess you all know how that turned out too ;)