#qcd

[Qaz]

Reading that quinnmarket-forums open thread gave me an idea. Irc-channel for QCD would be so nice add-on for this community. Of course only in the case I'm not only one here who ircs ;)

[Toe]

Well given that I commented "Hey, how bout an IRC channel!" in said QuinMarket thread, I suppose I could say it ain't a bad idear.

[bmc152003]

yes, great idea, paul or matt could just have al ink on the site that leads to the java client for the room...

[Tokelil]

Im on 4 IRC networks and 10-12 channels anyway, so count me in...

[DeltaGuy]

That would be a great idea...

[Hanzo]

Just name the address and I'll join :silly:

[thetribe]

Count me in to hang around and keep the channel occupied, I'm also on 4 servers and numerous channels so one more won't matter :)

[Sheepeh]

I'm usually about on Netgamers IRC, so chuck the address my way and I'll pop in there too =D

[Toe]

I guess we need to decide on a network? My website's IRC channel is on Slashnet (http://www.slashnet.org/), so I'll throw in a vote for that.

[Tokelil]

Im on efnet, freenode, phasenet and quakenet, so my vote goes for one of those.

[Cabinessence]

That sounds like a great idea! Finally I can start using IRC - haven't found any good channels to be in... Any server is fine with me.

[traveller]

I'll join in if I can figure out how to use ChatZilla. :cross-eye I've never tried IRC, so any advice will be welcome. :heart:

[DeltaGuy]

Im on efnet, freenode, phasenet and quakenet, so my vote goes for one of those.
Do any of these hosts allow you to set up a free channel?
I'd be able to set one up, I know of a good IRC host that provides web applets...

[Sheepeh]

Do any of these hosts allow you to set up a free channel?
I'd be able to set one up, I know of a good IRC host that provides web applets...

Netgamers definately does, I could set it up with a bot on irc.netgamers.org if required.

I think Quakenet does too, although I'm not too familiar with Q (Netgamers uses P).

<edit> I use Chatzilla too, if you need any help with it, give me a shout =) </edit>

[Toe]

Do any of these hosts allow you to set up a free channel?
I'd be able to set one up, I know of a good IRC host that provides web applets...
Pretty much any IRC network will allow you to host a channel for free, that's just the way IRC works. The main considerations are network stability (freedom from netsplits) and services (nickserv, chanserv, etc). IIRC Quakenet only gives smaller channels a limited chanserv system to save system resources.

As for web applets, those are independent of the IRC 'host'. A java applet (like pjirc) can be stored on your website and connect to any IRC network you tell it to.

[DeltaGuy]

If anyone is interested, I went ahead and set up a channel. It is registered with the server for QCD useage. Here are the details:

Webpage: http://qcd.port5.com/
Server: irc://www.centralchat.net/#qcd

It is completely adfree, and free. I'm looking for a few ops. Apply in this thread...
Also too, I'm looking for some people to write up tutorials on how to connect using different clients. More info is on the site...
I'll PM Paul to see what he thinks about it. It will be open until I receive a response from him...

[Tokelil]

Okay added to my list of irc channels. I can write a tutorial on how to connect with HydraIRC and if no one else what I can write it for mIRC too. I wouldn't mind being op'ed either... (/me runs to bed... :cyclops: )

[Sheepeh]

Okay added to my list of irc channels. I can write a tutorial on how to connect with HydraIRC and if no one else what I can write it for mIRC too. I wouldn't mind being op'ed either... (/me runs to bed... :cyclops: )


Consider a Chatzilla tutorial written when I get up tomorrow, and Oppage would be nice I guess =)

[traveller]

Very neat stuff here, guys!!

Consider a Chatzilla tutorial written when I get up tomorrow, and Oppage would be nice I guess =)

I'll be looking forward to that Chatzilla tutorial. I sort of muddled my way through the basic setup, but I have no idea how to use any of the features. Thanks! :heart:

[DeltaGuy]

I've received full authorization from Paul, the channel is now officially open... ;)
It's nice to see so much interest in it...

[Toe]

Might wanna fix your web applet, it currently points to "##qcd" instead of "#qcd".

If you're using chatzilla, all you have to do is click the link on that webpage to get in. How much tutorial do you need?

I wouldn't mind being op...

[Cabinessence]

I've received full authorization from Paul, the channel is now officially open... ;)
It's nice to see so much interest in it...
which server is it at?

[Toe]

Right now it's at irc.centralchat.net. Am I the only one who has never even heard of this network until now? It wasn't even in mIRC's rather large built-in list of IRC networks. As far as I can tell they're a single-server network. I'm looking at their about page (http://www.centralchat.net/about/intro.php):
the founder of CentralChat is only 15 years old!
Are you sure this is where we wanna have the IRC channel? Don't pick an IRC server just because they have a java applet available. Like I said, you can run your own applet for free with *any* IRC network - and it would look a lot more professional if the applet were on the same website as Quinnmarket.

[Sheepeh]

By the way, I have a Linux server sitting in the next room which acts as my personal webserver (which will be where I will host the Chatzilla tutorial as soon as I finish it).

In the past, it has also hosted my IRC bot for my NetGamers channels, if needed I could fire that up to "look after" the channel when no mods are about.

I made it so that it's easily customisable, so it can warn before kicking, can watch for swearing, could look for and answer simple questions, and provide a backup Auto-op and protection service if the Nickserv went down (as they occasionally do).

Of course, I won't put it in if Delta/Matt/Paul don't agree to it, but it's there if you want it.

It could also host a txt version of everyone's tutorials, and help people with the basic commands for their clients.

Just makes it look that little bit more professional to have a visible presence.

Could have a vote for it's name too ;)

[DeltaGuy]

In the past, it has also hosted my IRC bot for my NetGamers channels, if needed I could fire that up to "look after" the channel when no mods are about.
This could be a good idea...

I made it so that it's easily customisable, so it can warn before kicking, can watch for swearing, could look for and answer simple questions, and provide a backup Auto-op and protection service if the Nickserv went down (as they occasionally do).
I've already set up the channel to Auto-op and I'm setting it up to watch for swearing as I speak...

Are you sure this is where we wanna have the IRC channel?
This is not an official IRC channel, just one I set up. If you'd like to set up another channel elsewhere, feel free to do so. This has only been authorized as an unofficial channel by Paul, not as the "Official" Quintessential Player IRC channel...

Don't pick an IRC server just because they have a java applet available. Like I said, you can run your own applet for free with *any* IRC network
I didn't, although it did influence my choice. There were other factors. I did look into the Applet you recommended, pjirc, but they have no active websites or download sites. They've had no development since November 1, 2003, and their websites are now turned into ad sites...

and it would look a lot more professional if the applet were on the same website as Quinnmarket.
There are a number of reasons why I would not and cannot do this. One, Quintessential Market only has limited bandwidth. Two, I've only been authorized to use the site for the specific purpose of creating merchandise for a Quintessential CafePress Store. Three, the URL would simply be too long. Four, I like to separate my websites.

[Toe]

Gah, looks like they forgot to renew their domain or something. (Do you have any idea how many domains YaBB [perl] has gone through for that reason?) Seriously, I went to their website the other day when I mentioned it to you and downloaded a copy, it was fine then! Looking at Google right now, they still have the normal site cached except for the front page.

Here's a link to one of their download mirrors that's still working:
http://pjirc.easyhttp.com/files/applet_versions/pjirc_2_0_0_bin.zip

They've had no development since November 1, 2003
I can see that their last release was then, but how do you know that they're not developing it anymore? November 2003 was only a few months ago!

There are a number of reasons why I would not and cannot do this. One, Quintessential Market only has limited bandwidth. Two, I've only been authorized to use the site for the specific purpose of creating merchandise for a Quintessential CafePress Store. Three, the URL would simply be too long. Four, I like to separate my websites.
One I can kinda understand, but frankly I doubt you're actually going to get many people using the applet. I've had one on my site for years, but almost everyone uses a dedicated client. Two, get permission. :P Three and four, huh and why?

As for the network, perhaps we should put it up to a vote (new poll thread)? So far we've had Slashnet, Centralchat, Netgamers, Efnet, Freenode, Phasenet and Quakenet mentioned...

Could have a vote for it's name too
I vote "QuintessentialChannelDaemon" ;)

[DeltaGuy]

Gah, looks like they forgot to renew their domain or something. (Do you have any idea how many domains YaBB [perl] has gone through for that reason?) Seriously, I went to their website the other day when I mentioned it to you and downloaded a copy, it was fine then! Looking at Google right now, they still have the normal site cached except for the front page.

Here's a link to one of their download mirrors that's still working:
http://pjirc.easyhttp.com/files/applet_versions/pjirc_2_0_0_bin.zip
Thanks, I'll take a look at it, although I make no promises that I'll use it...
Also too, if you want this you could set up an applet on one of your sites running this... ;)

I can see that their last release was then, but how do you know that they're not developing it anymore? November 2003 was only a few months ago!
Generally, if the site is down, unrenewed, and the latest release is quite a few months old, development has either stalled or is no longer been developing...

One I can kinda understand, but frankly I doubt you're actually going to get many people using the applet. I've had one on my site for years, but almost everyone uses a dedicated client. Two, get permission. :P Three and four, huh and why?
One. If not so many people use the applet, it musn't be that important then... ;)
Two: I simply can't. You have to use the site for what it was requested.
Three: The URL would be something like: http://www.quinnmarket.buildtolearn.net/irc/index.html http://qcd.port5.com is a little shorter... ;)
Four: Simply a personal preference...

[Toe]

Also too, if you want this you could set up an applet on one of your sites running this... ;)
Alright, I went ahead and setup pjirc on one of my own domains. Here's the address:

http://www.toejob.org/qcd/

And since I'm still a little squeamish about Centralchat, I also setup another #qcd, this one on irc.slashnet.org . The above applet links to the Slashnet channel.

(I'm not trying to take over anything here, just presenting some alternatives that I think would be better)

[Sheepeh]

*bumpity*

Seems like there's no activity in the room guys?

After that enthusiasm I would have thought there would have been a lot more action in there...

[Toe]

So did I, but about the only other guy I ever saw semi-frequently was thetribe...

[bmc152003]

So did I, but about the only other guy I ever saw semi-frequently was thetribe...
hey remember i was in there

[Tokelil]

Are we settled on the centralchat server for the channel? As I said to a few in the channel I think it might be a good idea to choose a server a little more well known. One that's already in the Serverlist of the most used clients. Just IMO.

[Toe]

Are we settled on the centralchat server for the channel? As I said to a few in the channel I think it might be a good idea to choose a server a little more well known. One that's already in the Serverlist of the most used clients. Just IMO.
Indeed. Thetribe and I are still in #qcd on Slashnet, but we really need to make up our minds on this.

[Hanzo]

I went a couple of times to the one Delta set up, never saw anyone in there... just let me know when it's set up. I look forward to chat with you guys... :cool:

[DeltaGuy]

I'm starting to think we simply don't have enough users to have an IRC channel work yet...

[Tokelil]

Looks like it.

[Sheepeh]

Looks like it.


We have enough, I think, at least to encourage more to go there. Thing is, at the moment I can see one or two people in there at a time, but everyone's idle (and that includes me, so I'm not gonna go preaching).

I think maybe we should all set a time when we can meet in the IRC for the sole purpose of being active, even if only for an hour, maybe half, just to kinda give it a kickstart.

Build the channel, and they will come.

[bmc152003]

alright its seems now that most people are using #qcd on slashnet and Sheepeh and Toe are ops as of now.

[traveller]

Folks, I'm getting lost here. Where are we, and how do I get there using ChatZilla? I thought I had it all figured out, and then you all moved and I got left behind. I'm new to IRC, so any hand-holding will be greatly appreciated.

[rorythedog]

Hi folks. This all sounds very good, but I've never used IRC(?). What do I need to do? What client(?) should I use?

Sorry about all the question marks, but I haven't got a clue about any of this.

I see mention of tutorials. Any help would be much appreciated guys.

[Tokelil]

I have started a new thread here http://www.quinnware.com/forum/showthread.php?p=11537 for guides and added one for HydraIRC.
BTW. what do you guys think about it? Too detailed? Need more details?

A java applet would still be great for people new to IRC IMO.

rory: Im not sure which one I would surgest you try. Personally I use HydraIRC (http://www.hydrairc.com/) but I think it lacks in some areas. Before that I used mIRC (http://www.mirc.com/) (which is the most popular one on IRC I think) but it has poor multiserver support. A few here are using ChatZilla (http://www.mozilla.org/projects/rt-messaging/chatzilla/) it seems but that requeres that you are using a Mozilla browser as far as I can see.

Im planing on writing a guide on mIRC too by the way.

[Toe]

If you've never used IRC in your life and you just want to try it out for a bit without having to download and install a client, just load up the Java applet on my site and you'll be connected to the right place automaticly. Hint: you can change your nick with the box at the bottom right corner.

The url is http://www.toejob.org/qcd

If you want to try out a little nicer standalone client, a few good free ones are ViRC (http://www.visualirc.net/), BersIRC (http://bersirc.free2code.net/), and HydraIRC (http://hydrairc.com/).

A few of us are typing up detailed guides for various clients (edit: whups, looks like Tokelil posted his while I was typing this, see the link in the above post), but these two commands will work with most clients:

/server irc.slashnet.org
/join #qcd

Remember that it can take a minute to connect to the server (the first command) if you're behind a proxy/firewall/etc.

Glad to see there's still some interest. :) Now where did Deltaguy go?

[Toe]

Bump!

We need more people in here! I'm tired of talking to the same ~5 guys. :)

[fatal error]

yeah....need mo fresh meat in there.

[tupperduck]

Is the chat room dead and gone? I just tried to visit and couldn't find it...

[Qaz]

No, not entirely anyway. There should be few people all the time. You tried the one at slashnet, right?

[tupperduck]

I am using the server irc.slashnet.org. Is that the right one?

When I connect and look down the list of rooms, I don't see qcd listed anywhere.

Maybe I'm missing something?

[Qaz]

Not all rooms got listed, though I don't know reasons behind that. But anyway, type:

/join #qcd

when connected and you should be fine :)

[Toe]

Not all rooms got listed, though I don't know reasons behind that.
The channel is set to mode +s (secret) so it won't show up on /list. Not so many random people (and bots) coming and going that way.

[thetribe]

The channel is set to mode +s (secret) so it won't show up on /list. Not so many random people (and bots) coming and going that way.
SpamBots are the worst and often the links that they spam are just virus files. Best way to have it +s

[tupperduck]

*woo hoo* the QCD "secret" society.

All we need now is a secret hand signal... :)

[Rex_Mundi_Incarnit]

*bump* *bump* Lets have a party here in the irc channel!! Come on guys and gals! Even you non-posters and 7000+ members! Just stick around a bit and we can have lots of interesting discussions!!! W00t! w00t! Join now! :globe: :grimreape

[Toe]

If there's no objections, I think I'm gonna call it a day on the IRC channel. It hasn't seen any significant action in, oh, 3 years or so...

[Rex_Mundi_Incarnit]

Yeah sorry dude. I've not been around at home much (and living in different time zones doesnt help either). We still :heart: you :biggrin:

[hedge]

People still use IRC? :bandit:

[BALTY]

I've never seen this thread. Never knew anything about this....
Where can I sign up!

[Todd The Kiwi]

People still use IRC?i think it's an american thing... :nervous:

[BALTY]

i think it's an american thing... :nervous:
We are so... like, "yesterday"

[Toe]

It's as American as this guy (http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/01/30/american_stereotype/)! :ditsy:

[Hanzo]

People still use IRC? :bandit:

I used to use it... not anymore tho.
At least not until I find something I can't get out of P2P or Torrents, hehe