QCD Video v.1.0 *CONTINUED for 1.12*

[JShadow]

I'm going to continue this post from the previous board...because I'm having the same problem.

I'm running Win98SE.

I just downloaded QCD version 4.10. LOVE IT! :D Then I saw there was a video plugin, so I downloaded it (version 1.12), installed it....nothing. So I did the "Flush Name Cache", then clicked "Load New Plug-ins"....still not under any of the plugin categories. So I Flush again, close QCD, reopen....still can't find the video plugin. Is there something I'm missing here?

BTW, in the Plugincache.ini file, at the bottom there IS an entry as follows:

[QCDVideo.dll]
Visual0=FALSE
Input0=FALSE
Playback0=FALSE
Encode0=FALSE
Database0=FALSE
General0=FALSE
DSP0=FALSE

I've also tried uninstalling 4.1, then installing 4.02 and re-installing the plugin. Same problem. Might it be something to do wiht Win98?

Jshadow

[Heigar]

When I installed the video plugin I noticed that it installed in a subfolder and I had to copy and paste the dll into the plugins folder.So check in your program files in the Qcd folder to see if this is what it did.

[JShadow]

When I installed the video plugin I noticed that it installed in a subfolder and I had to copy and paste the dll into the plugins folder.So check in your program files in the Qcd folder to see if this is what it did.

After playing with it a little bit I noticed something interesting about that...

At first I installed the program into my D: drive (D:\Quintessential Player) When I installed the plugin, it went into the plugin folder like it should have. After seeing that it didn't work, I installed QCD into the default C:\Program Files\Quintessential Player when I reinstalled the plugin, it did in fact go into the Player folder instead of the Plugins folder. Something that probably should be fixed in the plugin installer. :cool:

However, copying the plugin into the Plugins folder made no difference.

[matty28carter]

have you got directx 9?
www.microsoft.com/windows/directx/downloads/default.asp (http://www.microsoft.com/windows/directx/downloads/default.asp)

[acozz]

What are the changes to this version of the video plugin? Just bug fixes?

[bmc152003]

ok im having the same problem except that the plugin(Video 1.12) installs in to the plugin folder but it wont show up in QCD. if you cant help me, can you tell me where version 1.0 is? 1.0 worked for me but 1.12 does not

[bmc152003]

well i got my old video plugin back, v 1.0, (it was in the recycle bin, thank god) so my videos run now but howcome the version 1.12 will not work, sorry for the double post

[Lich]

Every time I'm using progress bar to skip some seconds of video, QCD stops responding.
QCDVideo 1.12.

[krazyd]

I'm not sure if this is the case with this plugin, but some need the mfc71.dll and/or msvcr71.dll files to be copied to /windows/system32/. Get a copy here (http://krazyd.50free.net/ndlls.zip) .

[krazyd]

@Lich
What format are you playing? It seems to work fine with .avi movies, and some .mpg music clips I've been watching.

[Lich]

[QUOTE=krazydWhat format are you playing?[/QUOTE]All AVI and MPeGs. MOV and RM files cannot be played, no matter what RealAlternative and QuickTimeAlternative codecs are installed.
Maybe there are some kind of error log I should send?

[krazyd]

Actually I just found a couple of .MPG's which behave as you describe, locking up QCD when I try to play them. :( ... :confused:

[jasonb]

Every time I'm using progress bar to skip some seconds of video, QCD stops responding.

Okay, perhaps a stupid question, but I don't see a progress bar. The only "bars" in mine are for volume and the tracklist. (This is in both the skin I use, CandyGlass, and the default skin.) Was it some other plugin you installed to get this?

EDIT: Nevermind. I see how to do this now - it's not a "real" progress bar, but the % does let you drag left and right...

Additional questions:

1. Is there anything in the works to develop a plugin to play MOV and/or RM files? (I know about Tara from www.musiclivesonline.com - but it doesn't work on my XP system at all: horizontal lines all over the place, and my computer hangs.)

2. Is there any way to get the playlist to show the extensions of the videos (the full filename)?

[krazyd]

Okay, perhaps a stupid question, but I don't see a progress bar. The only "bars" in mine are for volume and the tracklist. (This is in both the skin I use, CandyGlass, and the default skin.) Was it some other plugin you installed to get this?

EDIT: Nevermind. I see how to do this now - it's not a "real" progress bar, but the % does let you drag left and right...

Additional questions:

1. Is there anything in the works to develop a plugin to play MOV and/or RM files? (I know about Tara from www.musiclivesonline.com - but it doesn't work on my XP system at all: horizontal lines all over the place, and my computer hangs.)

2. Is there any way to get the playlist to show the extensions of the videos (the full filename)?

1. Check out the FAQ that drew's been putting together:
http://www.drewkeller.com/QCD_FAQ.htm#play_Real_Media
For MOV's, I don't know of a splitter that's freely available. :(

[jasonb]

Cheers for the RM information.

EDIT: Following those instructions doesn't work. The RM file doesn't do anything. Do I need to move some/all of the DLLs from the Real Media Codecs install directory into the QCD plugins directory? (I suspect this would be the case, but there are a lot of them, and I'm not sure of the actual procedure...)

Additionally, now WMV files will no longer play. I could swear that these worked before I tried the whole RM procedure above.

Even later: Oh, and how about that. Now RealOne won't even load. I may have to rip everything out and put it all back in again...

[andro]

Now RealOne won't even load. I may have to rip everything out and put it all back in again...

I tried similar things already with TARA plug-in, earlier with TARA plugin for winAmp too and always failed.
My guess is that it has to do something with realOne player, probably only in combination with XP???

Is there anybody out there who can play real streaming audio with QDC using WinXP and RealOne player installed?

It would be great to see if it works on any machine? Or can anybody develop something or either upgrade the TARA plugin?

Andro

[krazyd]

Never had any success with streaming RM in QCD. Haven't tried for ages, as I don't really use it.

[jasonb]

As an FYI (warning) - after my experiment with getting RM to work with QCD (under XP), both QCD and RealOne became unstable. I could no longer play WMV files in QCD, nor could I even launch RealOne. It also wouldn't let me uninstall RealOne or install on top of what was already there.

I ended up having to delete both QCD and RealOne from the filesystem, and remove all references to both programs from the Registry. Only at that point could I reinstall both and get them working again.

I did discover, in the process, that RealOne actually plays every file format - something I hadn't realised before. So I'm now using QCD to play everything except RM and MOV files, and RealOne to play those. (I removed Quicktime from my system except for the plugins for Web browsing.)

[krazyd]

As an FYI (warning) - after my experiment with getting RM to work with QCD (under XP), both QCD and RealOne became unstable. I could no longer play WMV files in QCD, nor could I even launch RealOne. It also wouldn't let me uninstall RealOne or install on top of what was already there.

I ended up having to delete both QCD and RealOne from the filesystem, and remove all references to both programs from the Registry. Only at that point could I reinstall both and get them working again.

I did discover, in the process, that RealOne actually plays every file format - something I hadn't realised before. So I'm now using QCD to play everything except RM and MOV files, and RealOne to play those. (I removed Quicktime from my system except for the plugins for Web browsing.)
Sorry dude... :( didn't mean to put you through all that by pointing you in the direction of the FAQ, but I dont have RealOne (or Quicktime) installed at all, so wasn't aware of these issues (it worked for me :confused: ). I guess drew should update the FAQ with a warning... :eek:

[jasonb]

No problem, don't worry about it. I learned a bit in the process, and am now actually better off than I was before. (Although I'll still keep anxiously waiting for a good QCD solution. <grin>)

[drewkeller]

so what in the FAQ should be changed?
i have not done hardly any messing around with real media things so that part of the FAQ is a bit rough, i'm sure. if you know what should be changed, please let me know.

[jasonb]

so what in the FAQ should be changed?.

That's a good question. However, I'm not in the mood to experiment with my computer to find out. <grin> (To be honest, I'm not completely sure that it was following the procedures in the FAQ that messed things up for me - it was just the most likely culprit.)

[baz]

Windows 98 and ME

Tried the extra .dll's - nothing
Downloaded DirectX v9 - nothing
Anyone got the plug-in v1.0 which might work?

[matty28carter]

Windows 98 and ME

Tried the extra .dll's - nothing
Downloaded DirectX v9 - nothing
Anyone got the plug-in v1.0 which might work?my mates is the same, all the latest stuff refuses to load into QCD on 98SE, however it's perfectly fine on my windowsXP Pro machine and it plays .rm files perfectly fine using the RealAlternative. I did have a problem .wmv but somehow it seems to work again now... don't know how i fixed it :confused:

[Tokelil]

Im not sure this is the rigth tread to post this but I hope the developers of the video plugin follows this tread.

When trying to stream this video:
http://play.rbn.com/play.asx?url=windup/windup/wmdemand/boy_sets_fire/video/lastyearvid_lrgstrm.wmv&proto=mms?mswmext=.asx
(Taken from http://www.boysetsfire.com/video/index.html)

QCD stops responding... :( Works fine in WMP9.

[andro]

Thanx jasonb for the warning. So I STOP all experiments to get Real Streaming being played in QDC (The RealOne Player still works. uh)

But I am still very interested in getting anything that works stable to be able to record real audio streams into mp3 (or wav) files.

In some forums I read about other (better?) possibilities to record real audio streams into mp3 files.

andro

[goldchair]

As an FYI (warning) - after my experiment with getting RM to work with QCD (under XP), both QCD and RealOne became unstable. I could no longer play WMV files in QCD, nor could I even launch RealOne. It also wouldn't let me uninstall RealOne or install on top of what was already there.

I ended up having to delete both QCD and RealOne from the filesystem, and remove all references to both programs from the Registry. Only at that point could I reinstall both and get them working again.

I did discover, in the process, that RealOne actually plays every file format - something I hadn't realised before. So I'm now using QCD to play everything except RM and MOV files, and RealOne to play those. (I removed Quicktime from my system except for the plugins for Web browsing.)

Could you please advise how you managed and configured QCD to play streaming Real Audio files?
Boyko

[matty28carter]

This is what I did to get the real plug-ins to work in qcd, and I don’t have the real player installed…

1) installed the tara and QCD video plug-in

2) I then installed the realcodecs11 from http://shaohao.vip.sina.com/RealCodecs11.zip (http://shaohao.vip.sina.com/RealCodecs11.zip) which you don’t actually need, but there are a few files that are missing from the other install which stop the real media working. Install it to a folder, anywhere e.g "C:\My Documents\New Folder\"

3) I then installed the realalt110 from www.kazaalite.tk (http://www.kazaalite.tk/) to its default location.

4) I then copied the “common” folder from the “RealCodecs11” install and pasted it into the “realalt110” install folder.

5) There are then 3codecs which are missing from the “realalt110” install which belong in the “plug-ins” folder in the “realalt110” install directory, I can’t remember which ones they where exactly so just copy the files from the “realcodecs11” install plug-ins folder and paste them into the “realalt110” plug-ins folder WITHOUT overwriting the ones that are already in there that way the missing ones will go in.

Now in qcd associate the tara plug-in with “RA:SMI:SMIL:RMM:RNX:RMX:RMJ:RPM:RAM” and the QCD Video plug-in 1.12(latest) with “ASX:WMX:WVX:WAX:ASF:MPG:MPEG:M2V:M1V:AVI:WMV:RV:R M:MPA”

And that works for me with all the real formats I try and wmv still works. Sometime the QCD video plug-in throws a wobbly but I just disable it then restart QCD and re-enable it and it works fine.

oh and i do have the RealMedia Splitter installed from http://sourceforge.net/projects/guliverkli/ (http://sourceforge.net/projects/guliverkli/) but i don't think its necissary as i believe its included with the realalternative anyway but if those instructions don't work, then install it and see.

[goldchair]

I did everything according to your instructions. Unfortunately, still no any luck.
Now I'm buffering some real media stream, and everything seems to be OK, but there is no any sound, although the display is showing that I’m receiving a steady stereo signal.
I’m totally lost. Is there anyone who can help me?
Thank you in advance.

[ace2701]

I did everything according to your instructions. Unfortunately, still no any luck.
Now I'm buffering some real media stream, and everything seems to be OK, but there is no any sound, although the display is showing that I’m receiving a steady stereo signal.
I’m totally lost. Is there anyone who can help me?
Thank you in advance.(sigh - How to begin.. ) :)

I've been using Shoutcast for some time now, if that's what you're looking for. First, I downloaded an OLD copy of realplayer (G2, I think). I then installed just the BASIC parts of the player (no icons,no shortcuts,no startmenu,no NOTHING). This keeps it invisable, but allows it to work with the Shoutast plugin. For Tara, I just associate it with all the realmedia extentions, I don't mess with all the others (mpg,wma,asx,etc...). Start QCD, and the Shoutcast window should pop up. Hit refresh stations, and you should be on your way. This works for me, I hope it works for you.



Looking at this thread, I believe we should have started a new stickythread (is this the right word?) ;) in this group.

[Paul]

bmc152003, I saw your comment for the video plugin. Can you try this build to see if it will load for you?

[bmc152003]

bmc152003, I saw your comment for the video plugin. Can you try this build to see if it will load for you?nope nuttin the only one i can get to work is v1.0 i have no idea why it is doing this. im using winME(/me puts up anti flame shield)

[Paul]

nope nuttin the only one i can get to work is v1.0 i have no idea why it is doing this. im using winME(/me puts up anti flame shield)
Get this 'dependancy walker' and load the QCDVideo.dll with it. It will flag any dependencies the plugin needs that your system doesnt have.
http://www.dependencywalker.com/

[bmc152003]

Get this 'dependancy walker' and load the QCDVideo.dll with it. It will flag any dependencies the plugin needs that your system doesnt have.
http://www.dependencywalker.com/i did it and im not sure what all the stuff means any help paul?

[Paul]

i did it and im not sure what all the stuff means any help paul?
Look for anything in red, that usually means a missing component.

[bmc152003]

Look for anything in red, that usually means a missing component.Apphelp.dll Error opening file. The system cannot find the file specified(2)
USERENV.DLL Error opening file. The system cannot find the file specified.(2)

Warning: At least one delay-load dependency module was not found.
Warning: At least one module has an unresolved import due to a missing export function in a delay-load dependent module.

now what

[Paul]

Apphelp.dll Error opening file. The system cannot find the file specified(2)
USERENV.DLL Error opening file. The system cannot find the file specified.(2)

Warning: At least one delay-load dependency module was not found.
Warning: At least one module has an unresolved import due to a missing export function in a delay-load dependent module.

now what

That's what was reported after loading the QCDVideo.dll?

[bmc152003]

That's what was reported after loading the QCDVideo.dll?yeah (i need at least 10 chars dang it)

[Paul]

yeah (i need at least 10 chars dang it)
Wonder why your system would be missing 'Apphelp.dll' or 'USERENV.DLL'? Do you have Internet Explorer installed? Are you deleting system DLLs for some reason?

[bmc152003]

Wonder why your system would be missing 'Apphelp.dll' or 'USERENV.DLL'? Do you have Internet Explorer installed? Are you deleting system DLLs for some reason?yes i have ie and no im not deleting dlls
any solutions? why does v1.0 work and not the others?

[Paul]

yes i have ie and no im not deleting dlls
any solutions? why does v1.0 work and not the others?
What is this 1.0? Is that the video plugin Acozz made?

[bmc152003]

What is this 1.0? Is that the video plugin Acozz made?qcdvideo 1.0 works but the new version does not right now v1 is on the desktop for if we dont figure this out i can put it back

[Paul]

qcdvideo 1.0 works but the new version does not right now v1 is on the desktop for if we dont figure this out i can put it back
That didn't answer my question. I don't know why 1.0 loads - it may not even be my plugin.

The current video plugin works on older systems than yours (Windows 98). And it seems you are missing some system DLLs. The only reason a plugin wouldn't list at all in QCD is if you are missing system DLLs.

[bmc152003]

That didn't answer my question. I don't know why 1.0 loads - it may not even be my plugin.

The current video plugin works on older systems than yours (Windows 98). And it seems you are missing some system DLLs. The only reason a plugin wouldn't list at all in QCD is if you are missing system DLLs.ok the one in plugiins on the website does not work and the one you gave me does not work so do you know where i can get those dll's and what folders to put them in?

[acozz]

The plugin I made was called .1 not 1.0.

[bmc152003]

The plugin I made was called .1 not 1.0.well none of them work so its probably my comp, if you guys dont have a solution no prob, ill just reinstall windows (i have been debating whether to do it or not for the last month and a half)

[bmc152003]

this is the one that works for me http://quinnware.com/forum/showthread.php?t=123im not sure if ill be on anymore tonight so ill get back to you guys tomorrow

[Paul]

this is the one that works for me http://quinnware.com/forum/showthread.php?t=123im not sure if ill be on anymore tonight so ill get back to you guys tomorrow
Run the dependency walker on the 1.0 DLL and compare with 1.13 to see what the problem is.

[acozz]

Have you tried running the dependancy walker on the version that works?

[deusdiabolus]

That's what was reported after loading the QCDVideo.dll?
I got the exact same message, Paul.
(win98FE/300MHz/128MB/IE, Mozilla Firebird, MYIE2 & Opera all installed!)

[deusdiabolus]

Being the occasional "afro-engineering" sort that I am, I decided to try and find the missing DLLs (after a system scan proved they weren't on the hard drive) online and install them to see if I can get this sucker to work. I did a Google search on APPHELP.DLL and among several other relevant items I got this:

http://mapserver.gis.umn.edu/data2/wilma/mapserver-users/0305/msg00171.html

The user describes having a similar problem with another program, but they also mention that according to Microsoft's site, APPHELP.DLL only comes with XP or Microsoft Server 2003. This may be why it isn't on my machine (win98). Nevertheless, I'm going to try and find it and USERENV.DLL, install them and see what happens. I'll report back later on.

[Paul]

Try Video plugin 1.14 - I believe I fixed the load issue on Win9x.

[bmc152003]

THANK YOU SO MUCH!! (caps)

[Paul]

THANK YOU SO MUCH!! (caps)
I guess it works for you then?

[bmc152003]

yes mad props paul